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Finding a rot free hatchback/coupe..
jps - 6/3/14 at 10:11 AM

I'm after a cheap, but rot free, hatchback or coupe type car - with a view to using it for some road rallying. I'm thinking of spending £1500 max - on the basis that I can always throw it away if needs be. I'm not bothered about anything quick - but I don't want to have to do lots of bodywork repairs....

I've practically ruled out Ford Puma's - they all seem to be rust buckets.
Ford Ka is appealing - but also suffers rust

Proton Satria has been recommended - but they don't seem that common.

MX5 seems an obvious choice.

Rover 25 / MGZR also looks good.

Anything else I should be considering?

[Edited on 6/3/14 by jps]


MikeRJ - 6/3/14 at 11:08 AM

You may be able to get a reasonable Focus ST170 for your budget.

Clio 172 would be a pretty good choice, the only real negative is the slightly weak gearbox (and a slightly odd driving position).

A friend of mine does a lot of special stage and road rallying and uses EK shape (up to 2001) Civic VTi's for both, a fully prepped car for the special stage and a pretty standard one for road rallying and has won the local road rally championship numerous times. However, they can suffer from rust on the rear arches.


theduck - 6/3/14 at 11:15 AM

Will get a good 172 for that money. I sold mine for £700 and with the balance of your budget it would have been like new!


scootz - 6/3/14 at 11:40 AM

Porsche 944. Bit different, RWD and has a galvanised body, so little rot there.


loggyboy - 6/3/14 at 11:46 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
Clio 172 would be a pretty good choice, the only real negative is the slightly weak gearbox (and a slightly odd driving position).



Havent noticed the odd driving position in mine?


Parky - 6/3/14 at 11:56 AM

I have a totally solid Toyota GT Rally car for £1500. It is the proper thing with roll cage, LSD , LEDA Adjustable suspension, MSA logbook etc. It even has 12 months MOT!
Cheers
Parky
07861 996703


jps - 6/3/14 at 12:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Porsche 944. Bit different, RWD and has a galvanised body, so little rot there.


Cheap?


scootz - 6/3/14 at 01:15 PM

You'll find one for a grand.


Shorty - 6/3/14 at 01:16 PM

I got a 172 cup last year as a track car and was very impressed. I had never been a fan of french but was very impressed and started using as a daily driver.


loggyboy - 6/3/14 at 01:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Parky
I have a totally solid Toyota GT Rally car for £1500. It is the proper thing with roll cage, LSD , LEDA Adjustable suspension, MSA logbook etc. It even has 12 months MOT!
Cheers
Parky
07861 996703

Any pics?


chris-g - 6/3/14 at 01:37 PM

Mk4 or 5 Golf, they are galvanised.


IanG1 - 6/3/14 at 01:53 PM

Peugeot 306 XSi or GTi 6 could fall in your budget, they are pretty rot proof and the mechanicals are pretty good too.
The handle well for a FWD car as well.

[Edited on 6/3/14 by IanG1]


MikeRJ - 6/3/14 at 02:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
Clio 172 would be a pretty good choice, the only real negative is the slightly weak gearbox (and a slightly odd driving position).



Havent noticed the odd driving position in mine?


Depends on what you are used to I suppose. They sit you up very high compared to most hot hatches, and is (justifiably IMO) one of the main criticisms leveled against them.


Matt21 - 8/3/14 at 07:45 AM

The gti6 is an awesome car!

E36 328?


jelly head - 8/3/14 at 08:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Matt21
The gti6 is an awesome car!



Indeed they are but they can rot nicely in the front wheel wells.


richardR1 - 8/3/14 at 08:43 AM

A lot of the guys in our local motor club use the Proton Satria Gti and have done for the last 4 or 5 years for 12 cars and night rallies. Apparently Mitsi Evo suspension bolts straight on and makes them decent over the rougher whites. My mate has had one for a few years on events, been in it and felt slow to me. I picked up a Clio 172 cup cheap enough that a mate and I are going to use for trackdays and hillclimbs. Just fitted Spax coilovers which convert the rear to a proper coilover as well. Had a day round Cadwell and have to say they are terrific fun.


jps - 11/3/14 at 07:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Matt21
E36 328?


A bit big for hustling through the lanes perhaps - i was thinking more '1 careful lady owner' sort of things - with cheap replacement parts if something goes bang. Aren't BMW costly to keep running...?

The other ideas sound interesting - although I would like to avoid French if I can!


theduck - 11/3/14 at 08:26 AM

Don't know why the desire to avoid french. Over 100k miles my clips cost me less in maintenance than my bmws did over 30k. The bmws were younger and lower Mileage to!


sdh2903 - 11/3/14 at 09:14 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jps
quote:
Originally posted by Matt21
E36 328?


A bit big for hustling through the lanes perhaps - i was thinking more '1 careful lady owner' sort of things - with cheap replacement parts if something goes bang. Aren't BMW costly to keep running...?

The other ideas sound interesting - although I would like to avoid French if I can!


I've had a few bmws now and you'll be surprised how cheap parts are. Especially the e36/46/39 vintage. It only when you start looking at the M cars or newer stuff where the parts prices jump up.


jps - 11/3/14 at 09:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by theduck
Don't know why the desire to avoid french. Over 100k miles my clips cost me less in maintenance than my bmws did over 30k. The bmws were younger and lower Mileage to!


First hand experience of our Citroen C3 has been bad - so would avoid PSA cars if I can...

I guess Renault falls outside of that - but i've just got 'no French cars please' as default filter!


Shorty - 11/3/14 at 01:02 PM

I was the same but finally got over my fear of french.
I'm not sure about the mg zr but they are cheap.
The focus ST170 is a good shout or mabey a civic type R but would probably have to stretch the budget
As for rwd, bmw (I don't know a lot)
Or 4wd an impreza

[Edited on 11/3/14 by Shorty]


theduck - 11/3/14 at 02:43 PM

An impreza in that budget will need work, classic shapes are likely to be rotten to.


Matt21 - 12/3/14 at 06:05 PM

bmw are known for being expensive due to people buying parts from the dealers

go to a motor factors and parts are as cheap as any other car

never known of rot in the 306 front arches? between me and people i know there has been 7 of them and ive not come across any rotting