what all is there out there thats commonly available besides the one used in the freelander?
thinking of a 4x4 mini again and inline 4x4 really is the best idea in a mini as it eats up so much space in a car were you need all the space you can
get
Sierra XR4x4? ( I think :S)
Didn,t they do a 4x4 Fiat panda. Was that transverse?
Steve.
EVO
Ive got a 4x4 mondeo (stop laughing ) Tranverse engine / gearbox with zetec . Might fit under a clubman bonnet. Have seen a few mondeo 4x4's
breaking on ebay. If you want an inline 4x4 there are still a few sierras about. I got a 4x4 ghia estate for doner parts for £50
[Edited on 24/5/07 by TGR-ECOSSE]
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Originally posted by stevec
Didn,t they do a 4x4 Fiat panda. Was that transverse?
Steve.
Jag X-type ? (same floor pan as mondeo and new freelander)
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Originally posted by TGR-ECOSSE
Ive got a 4x4 mondeo (stop laughing ) Tranverse engine / gearbox with zetec . Might fit under a clubman bonnet. Have seen a few mondeo 4x4's breaking on ebay. If you want an inline 4x4 there are still a few sierras about. I got a 4x4 ghia estate for doner parts for £50
[Edited on 24/5/07 by TGR-ECOSSE]
You mean my 1996 mondeo 4x4 is realy a jag X type
dont think a panda drive train would be up to the 200bhp i want to run in the mini
evo would be very nice but i dont think that it would be quite in budget
mondeo now theres an idea, i always thought they were just a sierra with a mondeo shell and there for inline engine, but that sounds like the best
idea. how much do they sell secondhand?
looking at this link the other day i got thinking about it but i dont
think the 4x4 civic people carrier was ever sold here so need a different donor
yea i remember watching a show about 5 years ago on how the xtype was based on a mondeo, must have sliped my mind how the engine was mounted
[Edited on 24/5/07 by goodall]
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Originally posted by TGR-ECOSSE
You mean my 1996 mondeo 4x4 is realy a jag X type
its mot'd and tax'd for 4 months still and at only £100 its perfect but this is still next years project mainly because it will then be
possible for me to drive the donor home and use it for a few months to make sure everything works right
whats the mondeo like to drive? do you know what the torque split is like front and back?
must start doing some reading on the internet soon about them
the new freelander is also going to be based on the mondeo if i remember correctly
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Originally posted by TGR-ECOSSE
You mean my 1996 mondeo 4x4 is realy a jag X type
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Originally posted by goodall
whats the mondeo like to drive? do you know what the torque split is like front and back?
vw golf & bora 4motion, audi a3 & tt quattro, octavia 4x4 are all transverse 4wd. They are part time 4wd ie wheel sensors detect slippage and
a haldex clutch diverts power to the rear as and when required. Think it's approx 1/4 turn of slipage before power is diverted. Bit of a
compromise in terms of 4x4 but I gather improves fuel efficiency and tyre wear.
Ned.
Another option is the old 405 Mi16 4x4 thing. You get a nice all ally 1.9 16V engine, which makes a nice 170 bhp on ITBs, and a transverse 4x4 set up, leaving just the prop to run down the car.
I was thinking MI16. Good choice depending upon what you can squeeze into a mini!
Have you seen this V6 4x4 Mini
The background on the site looks familiar but can't think where from
the problem with the vw system would be that its still new enough for donor to not be that cheap and it also needs the ecu for the clutch system to be
modified
cant say im all that big of a fan of french cars as the only one i have ever been in on a motorway broke a ring and was burning causing it to rev up
to 6000rpm and being able to be turned of
yea iv seen that site before but the size of the transmission tunnel is what turns me of about it as it leaves the driver very little foot room.
is that 60% to the front or rear? as i read on the internet the jag has 60% to the rear "giving a sportier feel", i would be all for using
the mondeo system if it was 60% to the rear as that would be very fun in a mini
its the same as the locostbuilders background just alot darker
Celica GT4 had a transverse installation.
Cavalier/Calbra 4x4 was transverse.
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Originally posted by MikeRJ
Celica GT4 had a transverse installation.
Cavalier/Calbra 4x4 was transverse.
the cavalier/calibra could be done as I know there are conversion front mini subframes available for this engine, but I must confess I dont' know
the transfer box/prop layout. It is also a relatively large and heavy engine for a mini.
Ned.
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Originally posted by DIY Si
Another option is the old 405 Mi16 4x4 thing. You get a nice all ally 1.9 16V engine, which makes a nice 170 bhp on ITBs, and a transverse 4x4 set up, leaving just the prop to run down the car.
I can't believe no-one has mentioned it, but what about a Lancia Delta Integrale? Not as expensive as you might think for a parts car with running gear (say £500 to £1000).
yes i believe the cavalier uses a slightly higher ratio of diff at the back and this causes the viscous coupling to always be working a small bit and
i could see how marginally different tyres may cause problems, and with this going to be a radically modified car its likely i will wear tyres very
unevenly 
if i was to buy a gt4 or a lancia i would probably just drive end up driving it than bothering spending time and money making my dream of a 4x4
mini
emm still good at 120k is starting to make me suppress my views on french cars, must find out abit more about its transmission system
infact a 405 mi16 4x4 is probably the simplest to get my hands on because the local scrapyard (as in the one at the other end of the village) is a specialists in peugeots, but that might mean it would be very expensive to buy a whole scrap car of them, guess as long as it less than a few hundred.
mazda 323 4x4 turbo
adam
I'd have to vote against the Intergrale, unless it's a real about-to-fall-apart shed, as it would be sacraligous (?) otherwise!
Nissan Primera 4wd - same system as the Pulsar rally car, same SE20 block as the 200SX turbo
Renault Scenic X4
Galant VR4 (same trans as EVO but with twin turbo V6) 
Suzuki Vitara inline and Baleno/Ignis transverse.
Didn't they all have a 4wd version of their repmobiles during the early '90s?
reading about the ford mondeo system it sounds the best out of all the transverse 4x4 gearbox out there. the system found in the 4x4 rs2000 is better
because it has a lsd diff between he front and back but even with a normal out diff the ford system seems to be far superior to most of the others, so
if this project ever gets off the drawing broad in my mind it will most likely be a mtx75 4x4 from a mondeo with a zetec 2 litre with webers
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Originally posted by britishtrident
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Originally posted by TGR-ECOSSE
You mean my 1996 mondeo 4x4 is realy a jag X type
Rolling about floor laughing
What he means is Jags now feel as worn out as old Fords once the hit 50,000 miles
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Originally posted by DIY Si
I'd have to vote against the Intergrale, unless it's a real about-to-fall-apart shed, as it would be sacraligous (?) otherwise!
