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ashg

posted on 11/5/13 at 05:58 PM Reply With Quote
had a sleep still feel the same. if you owned your own house who would you sue? technically it should be the artex company you should sue not the H/A





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Aaron_n_Sim

posted on 11/5/13 at 06:16 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ashg
had a sleep still feel the same. if you owned your own house who would you sue? technically it should be the artex company you should sue not the H/A

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I don't want to sue anyone want I them to make it safe, the artex was damaged when we moved in, I don't like the "where there's blame there's a claim" culture anymore than you! Sometimes you have to kick n scream and throw your toys around to get anywhere, I'm sure you understand that! If I could afford to sort it myself I would, I do a lot that I could get them to do, here and around the local area ie litter picking, going & washing the local wee heads puke away, graffiti, etc

If it were a private landlord it'd be their problem, as you said you own so it'd be your problem, the HA own this house so it's their problem, I am grateful for a roof over our heads, but I DO pay for it & for them to maintain it and keep it safe they choose to be landlords and have obligations.

Ultimately I got some some sound advice so lets get back to talking about cars.

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Not Anumber

posted on 11/5/13 at 07:43 PM Reply With Quote
Your chest problems are most likely to have been caused by the heavy exposure to bog standard perfectly inert dust caused by filling and sanding the walls.
The end result of filling and sanding can be every bit as good as a replastered wall for far less money, the downsides are the amount of time it takes and the amount of dust generated.






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ashg

posted on 11/5/13 at 11:48 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
quote:
Originally posted by ashg
had a sleep still feel the same. if you owned your own house who would you sue? technically it should be the artex company you should sue not the H/A

"
I don't want to sue anyone want I them to make it safe, the artex was damaged when we moved in, I don't like the "where there's blame there's a claim" culture anymore than you! Sometimes you have to kick n scream and throw your toys around to get anywhere, I'm sure you understand that! If I could afford to sort it myself I would, I do a lot that I could get them to do, here and around the local area ie litter picking, going & washing the local wee heads puke away, graffiti, etc

If it were a private landlord it'd be their problem, as you said you own so it'd be your problem, the HA own this house so it's their problem, I am grateful for a roof over our heads, but I DO pay for it & for them to maintain it and keep it safe they choose to be landlords and have obligations.

Ultimately I got some some sound advice so lets get back to talking about cars.

Thanks

Aaron


agreed its on them to remove it if its really causing a problem as you say they are the landlords after all. so moral of the story here... get artex checked out if you suspect that there is asbestos in it. btw i wasn't out to upset you, everyone sees things differently





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Aaron_n_Sim

posted on 12/5/13 at 12:02 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ashg
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
quote:
Originally posted by ashg
had a sleep still feel the same. if you owned your own house who would you sue? technically it should be the artex company you should sue not the H/A

"
I don't want to sue anyone want I them to make it safe, the artex was damaged when we moved in, I don't like the "where there's blame there's a claim" culture anymore than you! Sometimes you have to kick n scream and throw your toys around to get anywhere, I'm sure you understand that! If I could afford to sort it myself I would, I do a lot that I could get them to do, here and around the local area ie litter picking, going & washing the local wee heads puke away, graffiti, etc

If it were a private landlord it'd be their problem, as you said you own so it'd be your problem, the HA own this house so it's their problem, I am grateful for a roof over our heads, but I DO pay for it & for them to maintain it and keep it safe they choose to be landlords and have obligations.

Ultimately I got some some sound advice so lets get back to talking about cars.

Thanks

Aaron


agreed its on them to remove it if its really causing a problem as you say they are the landlords after all. so moral of the story here... get artex checked out if you suspect that there is asbestos in it. btw i wasn't out to upset you, everyone sees things differently


I know you weren't out to upset me, nor I you!

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Davey D

posted on 12/5/13 at 06:00 AM Reply With Quote
Didn't you wear a mask whilst you was doing all that sanding? A cheap disposable P3 mask would save your lungs.
A few years ago I did some work on one of our artexed walls. But I was unsure of the age of it, as later stuff contains no asbestos, so I wore a full paper suit, and a P3 mask just to be on the safe side.

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Jasper

posted on 13/5/13 at 10:58 AM Reply With Quote
Strange this has come up now, my father-in-law is in hospital in the process of being diagnosed with Mesothelioma. They reckon he's got from days to up to 2 months to live, he only got symptoms in the last few week. He spent 20 years working as an industrial plumber in the 1960s'70's and handled asbestos all the time during that period so was exposed to a huge amount. We're talking to a specialist solicitors who have been really great - he'll get between £80-100k compensation.

He's also got late stage Parkinsons Disease, so in a way this is a much better outcome than a long slow nasty death with that disease - poor chap is only 69





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emwmarine

posted on 13/5/13 at 11:23 AM Reply With Quote
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Strange this has come up now, my father-in-law is in hospital in the process of being diagnosed with Mesothelioma. They reckon he's got from days to up to 2 months to live, he only got symptoms in the last few week. He spent 20 years working as an industrial plumber in the 1960s'70's and handled asbestos all the time during that period so was exposed to a huge amount. We're talking to a specialist solicitors who have been really great - he'll get between £80-100k compensation.

He's also got late stage Parkinsons Disease, so in a way this is a much better outcome than a long slow nasty death with that disease - poor chap is only 69


Really sorry to hear this Jasper and amazing that you, and hopefully your father-in-law as well, can see something positive from this tragedy.

It sounds like you could do the OP a real favour and private mail him details of the specialist solicitors you are using. My view is that a small amount of money spent by him now might, if God forbid the worst happened, help him and his family in the future.





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Jasper

posted on 13/5/13 at 11:56 AM Reply With Quote
Yeah, will do.





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nick205

posted on 13/5/13 at 01:06 PM Reply With Quote
80 fags a day......!!!!

4 packs x £8/pack....£32 a day/£11,680 a years on fags....!!!!

REALLY

Surely that's got to be the primary health concern for you, your wife and your kids?






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Aaron_n_Sim

posted on 13/5/13 at 01:32 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
80 fags a day......!!!!

4 packs x £8/pack....£32 a day/£11,680 a years on fags....!!!!

REALLY

Surely that's got to be the primary health concern for you, your wife and your kids?


I quit a week ago, it's bloody hard going but the electric fags and 24hr patches help, that was my primary concern, I know asbestos takes a while to do damage! just wanted advice as I don't know enough about it! And I've never worked out the financials, maybe I'll get this car built now





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nick205

posted on 13/5/13 at 02:51 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
80 fags a day......!!!!

4 packs x £8/pack....£32 a day/£11,680 a years on fags....!!!!

REALLY

Surely that's got to be the primary health concern for you, your wife and your kids?


I quit a week ago, it's bloody hard going but the electric fags and 24hr patches help, that was my primary concern, I know asbestos takes a while to do damage! just wanted advice as I don't know enough about it! And I've never worked out the financials, maybe I'll get this car built now



You could build a seriously nice car with that kind of money!






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twybrow

posted on 13/5/13 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
80 fags a day......!!!!

4 packs x £8/pack....£32 a day/£11,680 a years on fags....!!!!

REALLY

Surely that's got to be the primary health concern for you, your wife and your kids?


I quit a week ago, it's bloody hard going but the electric fags and 24hr patches help, that was my primary concern, I know asbestos takes a while to do damage! just wanted advice as I don't know enough about it! And I've never worked out the financials, maybe I'll get this car built now



You could build a seriously nice car with that kind of money!


Or pay a number of plasterers to come in and re-plaster your whole house and avoid any sanding of walls!

No offence meant Aaron, but it does annoy me when people who smoke say they have no money...! It is merely how you choose to prioritise/use your money. Some people build cars, others pay for Sky TV, others go down the pub each night... We all spend money we don't need to, it is just down to how we prioritise that spend.

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Aaron_n_Sim

posted on 13/5/13 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
80 fags a day......!!!!

4 packs x £8/pack....£32 a day/£11,680 a years on fags....!!!!

REALLY

Surely that's got to be the primary health concern for you, your wife and your kids?


I quit a week ago, it's bloody hard going but the electric fags and 24hr patches help, that was my primary concern, I know asbestos takes a while to do damage! just wanted advice as I don't know enough about it! And I've never worked out the financials, maybe I'll get this car built now



You could build a seriously nice car with that kind of money!


Or pay a number of plasterers to come in and re-plaster your whole house and avoid any sanding of walls!

No offence meant Aaron, but it does annoy me when people who smoke say they have no money...! It is merely how you choose to prioritise/use your money. Some people build cars, others pay for Sky TV, others go down the pub each night... We all spend money we don't need to, it is just down to how we prioritise that spend.


Fair point, and no offence taken,

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Aaron





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James

posted on 13/5/13 at 05:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
80 fags a day......!!!!

4 packs x £8/pack....£32 a day/£11,680 a years on fags....!!!!

REALLY

Surely that's got to be the primary health concern for you, your wife and your kids?


I quit a week ago, it's bloody hard going but the electric fags and 24hr patches help, that was my primary concern, I know asbestos takes a while to do damage! just wanted advice as I don't know enough about it! And I've never worked out the financials, maybe I'll get this car built now



Good on ya mate. Stick with it! I've never smoked but I know a lot who do and how hard quitting is!

But, as they say: No sacrifice, no victory!


Have a friend who's an NHS 'quit smoking' advisor/councillor and they have a good success rate.
Maybe you can get on a similar course to help you?

All the best,
James

P.S. Having seen you location- keep your eyes open for our meets up at Newlands Corner, Guildford.

[Edited on 13/5/13 by James]





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