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Author: Subject: Alternative hubs/uprights
Highcost builder

posted on 17/1/03 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
Rorty, wow, respect , just one point.......
Like the idea of saving money with the diy uprights, i will consider it if the custom desinged laser cut discs are about £10-£15 each, do you think i can get them done for about that.

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Rorty

posted on 18/1/03 at 01:59 AM Reply With Quote
Phull:
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I was wondering on ur opinion of Ford Falcon XF disks and calipers for this aplication?


WAY too heavy M8. Go to Pick-a-part, or DatsToy in Rooks Rd, Nunawading/Vermont, and get the bits off a much lighter car. If you get the stuff of a GTi or similar, they usually have uprated brakes.
I used to live in Blackburn, but now live in Elsternwick.

Fastenuff, I think that all looks good. I've no idea what the Sierra strut/hub is like, but I presume you have utilised the hub as is, and drawn your upright to suit. My only criticism is that it would still be pretty heavy.
If you're going to the bother of using a bit of pipe for the upright, how about taking it a stage further, and turn it suit the Sierra bearings etc. too. That way, you would get rid of the casting, and two unneccesary flanges and bolts.

Highcost:
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Rorty, wow, respect , just one point.......
Like the idea of saving money with the diy uprights, i will consider it if the custom desinged laser cut discs are about £10-£15 each, do you think i can get them done for about that.



Thanks for the kind words.
I get my discs cut for about $28 each....so...divide roughly by three for pounds. Best bet would be to ask Merlin on this list, as he either has, or works for a laser cutting business. As with everything, multiples cost less per item.






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fastenuff

posted on 18/1/03 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
the weight is true rorty, but this upright was made up from parts i did find as drawings.
The upright was made up from steel tube and the rearbearing of the sierra unmodified and an end piece of the driveshaft.
I don't have any parts left here sold everything, only gearbox diskbreaks and diff left, so getting dimensions is a bit hard, as in have to go down in the mudd at the scrapyard, have to get another sierra in the near future.





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PHULL

posted on 18/1/03 at 09:30 AM Reply With Quote
brakes

thanks for the reply
well I live in Camberwell

anyway
those spherical joints u used I noticed that they are used vertical instead of horizontal...

anyway where did u go to get those spherical joints...how much Aus$ they seem pretty expensive where in melb specialises in this stuff?

six pot calipers on a bike man what bike did that come from that would be awsome,

I was wondering about the expense of getting some one to turn up some stub axels, hubs to fit bike disk brakes ect

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Rorty

posted on 19/1/03 at 02:25 AM Reply With Quote
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those spherical joints u used I noticed that they are used vertical instead of horizontal


No, they are actually used horizontally if you look closely.

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anyway where did u go to get those spherical joints...how much Aus$ they seem pretty expensive where in melb specialises in this stuff?


I mainly use Aurora rodends. I have an account with RBC, and IIRC, VCM10s are about $28 each, but any bearing wholesaler should have them.

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six pot calipers on a bike man what bike did that come from that would be awsome


Most of the big Jap road bikes run 6 pot callipers these days. Best wrecker is Vic Wreckers in Abbotsford.

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I was wondering about the expense of getting some one to turn up some stub axels, hubs to fit bike disk brakes ect


Stub axles will probably cost around $80-$100 each, and hubs in 6061 will probably cost around $120 each. Those are basically one-off prices.





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Macca

posted on 22/1/03 at 04:59 PM Reply With Quote
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the most popular fitment would be Sierra hubs to cortina dimension uprights.

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OK, I'm happy to do those, though I'll need you, or somone to provide some basic measurements.

Has this gone any further as I want some, were do I send my money?
Rorty, do you think that bike discs/calipers would be upto the job on the road in a bec?
Cheers Col

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Rorty

posted on 23/1/03 at 02:41 AM Reply With Quote
It's all rather died in the ar$e I'm afraid. I'm still more than happy to design a number of uprights (or whatever is wanted), free for the members here.
I need accurate dimensions of the donor components, as I'm not building a sevenesque Locost myself, so I don't have any of the uprights/hubs that you blokes are using.
I did send a requisit sheet to someone, and someone else pointed me in the direction of a pic of a Cortina upright, but it didn't have sufficient detail.
Bike callipers and suitable discs should work fine in a BEC, as it's so light. You may struggle to get large enough discs into a 13" rim though. 15"wheels would definitely do the trick.






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PHULL

posted on 23/1/03 at 06:25 AM Reply With Quote
up rights

/me runs off to pick a part for some cortina uprights
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Macca

posted on 23/1/03 at 08:55 AM Reply With Quote
Rorty,
I have both cortina and sierra complete hubs and will be more than happy to supply as much info as needed/requested.

I will send you a U2U with my email address if you need to ask for any details etc.

I will be running 15/16" rims due to the engine/diff combo that I have so should have room for the bike discs.

Cheers Col

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Rorty

posted on 24/1/03 at 01:08 AM Reply With Quote
Not a problem. I will email a sheet with the dimensions I need clearly indicated. Just fill in the missing figures in milimetres, and I'll do the rest.
If anyone else has any particular requests, such as odd offsets etc, I'm prepared to give a certain amount of time to this.






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Northy

posted on 24/1/03 at 06:41 PM Reply With Quote
I could help with photos or dimensions of the Cortina uprights and hubs.

When I was at the autosport show I saw a 'fabricated' Cortina upright. All the holes were in the same places, but was 1kg lighter I was hold. Same place had aluminium Cortins hubs, which weighed hardly anything! These were on the Randal Motorsport stand, www.randallmotorsport.co.uk the uprights were new and may not be on there, but the hubs might. Give them a ring on 01945 420777. If anyone rings them I'd be interested in prices (I forgot!).





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PHULL

posted on 27/1/03 at 07:45 AM Reply With Quote
how would alloy hubs hold up for b4 u would need to replace them as oposed to the std items
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Rorty

posted on 28/1/03 at 02:21 AM Reply With Quote
The AL hubs should last longer than the steel ones, as AL doesn't rust!
Seriously, as long as all the tolerances are correctly observed, there would be no difference between the two.






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Graceland

posted on 8/3/04 at 07:53 PM Reply With Quote
quick note

sierra 2wd front hubs - buy Mk2 astra bottom ball joints fit straight in and are at the right angle for bolting to the wishbone aswell






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britishtrident

posted on 13/3/04 at 01:26 PM Reply With Quote
Maxi balljoints are the same taper as Cortina ones --- actually better for the job as they have a neater 2 bolt flange than the angle Cortin 4 bolt fixing.

Other ball joints that have been used with Cortina uprights are Lada and Hillman Hunter..

Sierra one as mention elsewhere fit Astra MK2 balljoints --- but not all Sierras have taper fitting joints just the plain vanilla models.

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