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Author: Subject: Islam4UK to March Through Wootton-Bassett
scootz

posted on 4/1/10 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
Great news... now lets hope that the Wiltshire Police and the local council have the kahuna's to make the necessary objection (by no means a given as both the police service and local councils are paralyzed with political correctness gone mad!).





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flak monkey

posted on 4/1/10 at 09:17 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by miikae
The Home Secretary has just announced that if the Wootton Bassett Authorities ask him he will gladly place a ban on the march.

Mike


Thats the best thing I have heard about this so far.

Sadly there has to be a limit for free speech. Given the fact that the preacher bloke is banned from the country I think that this is one of the cases where you have to draw the line.

There probably wouldnt be so much protest if the march were held in london or somewhere else.





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omega 24 v6

posted on 4/1/10 at 09:27 PM Reply With Quote
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Given the fact that the preacher bloke is banned from the country



Is he really???? then why the feck is he still here.
Boils my wee stuff like that. Laws NEED to be enforced.





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flak monkey

posted on 4/1/10 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by omega 24 v6
quote:

Given the fact that the preacher bloke is banned from the country



Is he really???? then why the feck is he still here.
Boils my wee stuff like that. Laws NEED to be enforced.


Oh, I thought he had been deported? Isn't the group just a load of his followers?

I admit I hadnt looked into it, but I thought he had been sent away due to his incitment of racial hatred.





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flak monkey

posted on 4/1/10 at 09:35 PM Reply With Quote
Found it - from the telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/6931212/What-is-Islam4UK.html

quote:
Among its founders are the militant preacher Omar Bakri Mohammed – who is living in exile in Lebanon – and former solicitor Anjem Choudary, who both played a part in Al Muhajiroun.


And this, from wikipedia:

quote:
Al-Muhajiroun is an extremist[1] Islamist organisation whose two offshoots, The Saviour Sect and Al-Ghurabaa are banned under the British Terrorism Act 2006 [3], for the 'glorification' of terrorism. It operated in the United Kingdom from 14 January 1986 until the British Government announced an intended ban in August 2005.[2]

Omar Bakri Muhammad and Anjem Choudary are known to have led Al-Muhajiroun.[3] The group became notorious for its conference "The Magnificent 19", praising the September 11, 2001 attacks. The former Home Secretary Charles Clarke banned Bakri from the United Kingdom on 12 August 2005 because it was alleged that his presence was "not conducive to the public good."[4][5] In June 2009 following more than a five year hiatus the organisation re-launched itself.[6]


So maybe I am not going as mad as I thought!

[Edited on 4/1/10 by flak monkey]





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omega 24 v6

posted on 4/1/10 at 10:38 PM Reply With Quote
LOL I took your post as gospel (no matter which religion mind).
So he's not here but his supporters are.
Arrest the lot and send them to him then





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02GF74

posted on 5/1/10 at 11:20 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by omega 24 v6
LOL I took your post as gospel (no matter which religion mind).
So he's not here but his supporters are.
Arrest the lot and send them to him then



IMO that is why the march should go ahead so the police can get some faces and names and details of the supporters.






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morcus

posted on 5/1/10 at 12:14 PM Reply With Quote
That wouldn't help, whenever there is a terrorist attack of an magnituded, they always seem to say afterwards that the people were know to be possible terrorists and that the were on watchlists.





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Ninehigh

posted on 9/1/10 at 08:07 PM Reply With Quote
I wonder if we sent a load of homeless people over there (wherever 'there' is exactly) and got them to blow themselves up, calling it a protest against their acts over here, how well that would go down in a "how do you like it" kind of way.

I've never heard from anyone who wants this war, now where's our Obama?






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karlak

posted on 12/1/10 at 09:16 AM Reply With Quote
Lets hope it gets pushed through - no doubt they will complain it is against their "human" rights

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/12/islam4uk-banned-alan-johnson-islamist





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Jumpy Guy

posted on 12/1/10 at 11:08 AM Reply With Quote
Im of mixed feelings about this- I'm never happy that any polital group is banned. It can make heroes of the group to the youth and dissafected.

On a related note, surely someone should be highlighting the huge civilian losses in Afghanistan?

This march is banned, perhaps rightly so, but surely someone should be asking questions of all of the military strategists?

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Confused but excited.

posted on 12/1/10 at 05:44 PM Reply With Quote
The reason we have troops over there in the first place, is civilain losses over here!
It's not us that are leaving bombs in shopping areas full of women and kids.





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morcus

posted on 13/1/10 at 02:49 AM Reply With Quote
To be honest, I was amazed to see our government do this, I didn't think they had the balls.

There is always the danger that this will make them heroes of sorts but unfortunatly the only thing that wouldn't have would be if they'd chickened out themselves.





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Jumpy Guy

posted on 13/1/10 at 08:39 AM Reply With Quote
I agree that we need to be over there. Im a strong defender of that.

I'm just not convinced that our strategy is the best to protect the Afghan people- far too many civilians are being killed.

We might not be leaving bombs in shopping centres, we're doing arguably worse- bombing the shopping centre from 10,000 feet.

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woodster

posted on 13/1/10 at 10:16 AM Reply With Quote
i think its important to remember that the vast majority of muslims will be just as outraged as we are about these extremist groups
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morcus

posted on 13/1/10 at 05:29 PM Reply With Quote
To be honest, I don't understand how you can justify yourself as a political group in a democracy if you don't hold seats in councils and assemblies, or at least try to.





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