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Author: Subject: 4.3L TVR Rover V8 into a Fisher Fury
scudderfish

posted on 11/1/13 at 02:05 PM Reply With Quote
Well I've done 12 of the items on that list now (and quite a few that weren't!). It's nice to be making some progress now.
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MakeEverything

posted on 13/1/13 at 10:15 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
Well I've done 12 of the items on that list now (and quite a few that weren't!). It's nice to be making some progress now.


Its satisfying to see the list shrink to nothing isnt it.

Ive still got four or five on mine that i just cant seem to shift. :/

ETA: Whats left now then? Remember, ill come and video the first start for you.

[Edited on 13-1-13, by MakeEverything]





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scudderfish

posted on 13/1/13 at 11:34 AM Reply With Quote
Oh cock



That is the coolant that came out when I removed my sump plug. Time for petrol and matches I think.

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me!

posted on 13/1/13 at 12:17 PM Reply With Quote
Whoops! I felt like that several times. I found it best to put it away, have a cup of tea and come back another day when I didn't want to put a hammer through the windscreen. I'm not familiar with the RV8, hopefully it's something simple someone else can point you to.
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scudderfish

posted on 9/3/13 at 06:02 PM Reply With Quote
I stepped away from the garage for a while. Since then I've made progress.

I dropped the sump and cleaned out all the coolant. I took the inlet manifold off and binned the valley gasket. I made a number of mistakes going back quite far in time. I originally forgot to fit the rubber seals that go at each end of the block. When I had put the original valley gasket in I had used a sealing compound between it and the heads. This made it a pig to get off, and wrecked it. I fitted the end seals, but the valley gasket I got from my local motor factors was tin, not the coated steel I'd used before. Not wanting to have the grief I had before I decided not to use any sealant under the new tin valley gasket. This was a big mistake. Steel ones are coated and curved, the tin one was thin and flat. It has a predisposition to straighten itself out. When I had bolted it all together, it could weep coolant underneath it into the valley. When I took it off I found small puddles of coolant in the cast webbings and near the cam lifters. I've now replaced the valley gasket with a new coated steel one and been rather liberal with the hylomar I left the sump off, put some white card under the car and refilled the coolant and left it for a couple of weeks. No coolant on the card.
Since then I've put the sump back on (pig of a job as I hate being under my car) and filled it with oil. The oil pump is now primed. I've refitted the inlet manifold and plumbed in the fuel lines. It's still missing spark plugs and an ECU (sat on my desk whilst I do some work on MSDroid), but the battery is on charge as I intend to turn it over tomorrow to check the starter motor and to see if I've fitted the crank correctly.



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me!

posted on 9/3/13 at 07:56 PM Reply With Quote
Good work- nearly time for it to make some noise!
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Xtreme Kermit

posted on 9/3/13 at 09:57 PM Reply With Quote
I can't wait...

It's a good job you found the water in the sump before the first run Scud!

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scudderfish

posted on 9/3/13 at 10:12 PM Reply With Quote
TBH, I did it that way round (fill with coolant before fill with oil) just to allow for my ability to cock up. I thought if I did have an internal leak it'd be easier to deal with without 6 litres of oil sloshing around the garage floor.
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Xtreme Kermit

posted on 9/3/13 at 10:22 PM Reply With Quote
Like the way you think (subtext, I'll believe you)
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Furyous

posted on 10/3/13 at 12:09 AM Reply With Quote
I was going to ask about this the other day. Looks like you've overcome some problems, which is always relieving.
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scudderfish

posted on 15/3/13 at 01:29 PM Reply With Quote
Phew! Just crossed a major psychological barrier I had. I turned the engine over on the starter! I was extremely worried about this as if you refer to one of my first posts, I had not noted which piston went in which bore and ended up fitting them randomly. As I was fitting them the engine got quite tight and by the time I got the heads on it was hard to turn over with a regular socket set. My big fear was something was going to jam and I'd be back to square one. It doesn't spin quite as freely as it used to (I don't have the ECU in so I can't get the exact cranking RPM, it used to do about 120), but I'm putting that down to new rings in honed bores and the fact it is primarily lubricated with assembly lubricant which is considerably thicker and stickier than the 20/50 sat in the sump.

The list is now:-

  1. New spark plugs
  2. Make a new spark lead (I broke one)
  3. Find out why my LP pump wasn't feeding fuel through to the engine bay
  4. Wire up speed sensor
  5. Wire up reverse light
  6. Fettle gearchange
  7. Tighten everything
  8. Buy another fire extinguisher
  9. Fit ECU
  10. Bleed brakes and clutch
  11. Push the button

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matt_gsxr

posted on 15/3/13 at 02:15 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
Phew! Just crossed a major psychological barrier I had. I turned the engine over on the starter! I was extremely worried about this as if you refer to one of my first posts, I had not noted which piston went in which bore and ended up fitting them randomly. As I was fitting them the engine got quite tight and by the time I got the heads on it was hard to turn over with a regular socket set. My big fear was something was going to jam and I'd be back to square one. It doesn't spin quite as freely as it used to (I don't have the ECU in so I can't get the exact cranking RPM, it used to do about 120), but I'm putting that down to new rings in honed bores and the fact it is primarily lubricated with assembly lubricant which is considerably thicker and stickier than the 20/50 sat in the sump.

The list is now:-

  1. New spark plugs
  2. Make a new spark lead (I broke one)
  3. Find out why my LP pump wasn't feeding fuel through to the engine bay
  4. Wire up speed sensor
  5. Wire up reverse light
  6. Fettle gearchange
  7. Tighten everything
  8. Buy another fire extinguisher
  9. Fit ECU
  10. Bleed brakes and clutch
  11. Push the button



I'd go with: 8, 9, 1, 2, 3, 11

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MakeEverything

posted on 1/4/13 at 09:22 AM Reply With Quote
Great news mate. I'm around tomorrow and Wednesday if you want a cameraman for the first start.





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scudderfish

posted on 1/4/13 at 12:56 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by MakeEverything
Great news mate. I'm around tomorrow and Wednesday if you want a cameraman for the first start.


I'm at work tomorrow & Wednesday otherwise I'd probably take you up on the offer. Second start will be videoed, first one I'll have the fire extinguisher in my hand instead of the camera!

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MakeEverything

posted on 1/4/13 at 02:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
Great news mate. I'm around tomorrow and Wednesday if you want a cameraman for the first start.


I'm at work tomorrow & Wednesday otherwise I'd probably take you up on the offer. Second start will be videoed, first one I'll have the fire extinguisher in my hand instead of the camera!


Phone in sick!!





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Richard.

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MakeEverything

posted on 5/4/13 at 09:16 PM Reply With Quote
How did you get on??





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scudderfish

posted on 6/4/13 at 10:18 AM Reply With Quote
No real progress yet, I'm developing my skills at procrastination! The car is now insured (£160 including breakdown cover), but for the agreed value part they want a bunch of recent photos so I've got to make it look more car like first and get that sorted.
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scudderfish

posted on 16/4/13 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
I took my insurance photos :-





And then tonight I actually attached the bonnet to the car.


The whiteboard is getting empty.

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adithorp

posted on 16/4/13 at 08:49 PM Reply With Quote
Better get your finger out then... We expect to see it at Stoneleigh!





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scudderfish

posted on 16/4/13 at 09:00 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Better get your finger out then... We expect to see it at Stoneleigh!


I wish I could but I'm giving Stoneleigh a miss this year as I'm off to Thailand for a wedding then (not mine )

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Furyous

posted on 17/4/13 at 09:05 PM Reply With Quote
*Replace fuel hoses

*Fit megasquirt

*Set camera up

*Start engine!

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scudderfish

posted on 28/4/13 at 11:18 AM Reply With Quote
Close, but no cigar

It fires, but it doesn't catch.

Positives are :-
1. I didn't need to use the fire extinguisher
2. All the petrol, oil and coolant appeared to stay where it should
3. When it fired, it sounded like all 8 were going at the right time.

Looking at the log, my battery didn't look too healthy, dropping down to 8.2v at one point so that needs to go on charge. Now I think it's mainly a matter of throwing more fuel in until it is self sustaining.


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dave_424

posted on 28/4/13 at 12:23 PM Reply With Quote
Low battery voltage whilst cranking is very normal.

My engine was doing the same thing, it would fire but not run, I just went into the VE table, selected the bins around idle and added 10 to each number. Got it running.

Dave

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scudderfish

posted on 28/4/13 at 02:25 PM Reply With Quote
It's alive!

Schoolboy error. I got an MSQ file from Phil @ ExtraEFI (thoroughly nice bloke) for a RV8 running EDIS. I forgot to change it from the standard 8 injectors to my set up which is 4 so I was only putting in half the amount of fuel I needed.

Now for my next problem, the exhaust headers are smoking like a beagle!



It isn't a leak, it's coming from the surface of the headers, and it doesn't smell like exhaust fumes. Any ideas? I suspect it could just be dirt and WD40 burning off, but it filled my garage after a few seconds so no more playing until I get a chance to wheel the car outside (probably Thursday).

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scudderfish

posted on 28/4/13 at 02:32 PM Reply With Quote
Satisfying.


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