omega0684
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 08:51 PM |
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A Constructive but Destructive Day
After getting another pinto from kieth i decided today that i would start learning more about engine building by taking it apart!  i have never
taken an engine apart before so was very enthusiastic at getting oily and dirty! i took some pictures of the engine throughout the day and would like
your more experienced chaps to have a look for me and see if you can see any ,ajor problems with any of the componants, cheers.
 
here are the pistions one one the left is how they came out of the engine and one that i managed to recondition.
 
 
 
must admit im absolutely shattered, having a 6ft breaker bar on the head & crank bolts was entertaining, as well as trying to lump around a pinto
engine on my own when the bloody thing ways 40 kilos more than i do!
all advice welcome!
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 08:54 PM |
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you need a second camshaft and another 8 valves 
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prawnabie
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 08:55 PM |
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Did you number the mains caps?
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Andy D
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 08:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
you need a second camshaft and another 8 valves
Two Pintos? now you're talking! 
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omega0684
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 08:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by prawnabie
Did you number the mains caps?
what you mean? im worried now!
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owelly
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 09:00 PM |
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My advice? Get some steely toe caps on before you try lifting heavy engines around!!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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prawnabie
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 09:03 PM |
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the mains journals are lined bored with the caps in situ, you really need to number the caps so they go back in the correct order.
As a matter of course everything that there is more than one of in an engine will be matched - either though machining or wear and tear, to the place
it origninally came from in the engine!
Shaun
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omega0684
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 09:06 PM |
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shaun what do you mean 'caps'? the head bolts? i have taken any of the head apart yet all the cam and springs etc are still in place.
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prawnabie
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 09:10 PM |
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The mains caps hold the crank in place. When the block is manufactured they are bolted to the block as blanks and the whole assembly is line bored
from the side to take the crank.
Altering the sequence that they were orignally in would been that wht block would need to be line bored again if thats possible, unless of course you
marked them of just got plain old lucky!
[Edited on 3/4/09 by prawnabie]
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mongrelwestie
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 09:12 PM |
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He means that caps at the bottom of the engine that you have to take off to get the crank out, they must got back in same locations as before
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omega0684
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 09:13 PM |
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oh right, yes i have then lined up as i took them out at the moment, they are still caked in oil as i was working on cleaning up that piston in the
photo so i could put a comparison shot on the forum.
if i remember rightly the caps are numbered in the casting.
you coming to the meet on monday in the motor?
[Edited on 3/4/09 by omega0684]
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prawnabie
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 09:14 PM |
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Yes unless it rains!!
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 09:25 PM |
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Once you clean the main caps on the pinto you should find that they are numbered anyway.
The ones to watch are the big end caps which are machine bored, matched to the con rod it comes off of.
Oh and there is a front and rear direction to the piston and the con rod.
Of course you will need a piston ring compressor to get the pistons back in.
Enjoy.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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stevec
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 09:27 PM |
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Told you the head bolts would get your arms working
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omega0684
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 09:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevec
Told you the head bolts would get your arms working
i felt like the HULK afterwards!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 10:09 PM |
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Alex, did you see this link on the other thread - right down the bottom of the page
linky
quote:
Originally posted by omega0684quote:
Originally posted by stevec
Told you the head bolts would get your arms working
i felt like the HULK afterwards!
I've done 3 of these now and only the best one looked as good as that.....
its well on the way now though 
it only took a hot dip and about 12 hours work with wire brush things on the drill to clean the block
[Edited on 3/4/09 by mcerd1]
[Edited on 3/4/09 by mcerd1]
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omega0684
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 10:17 PM |
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what link? you just edited that!! cheeky bu**er, it wasn't there a minute ago!
i think that the engine is in fairly good nick to be honest, the is no major damage that i can see, pistons need a good clean and so does the block
and the head can use some work but apart from that im quite impressed with its current state.
[Edited on 3/4/09 by omega0684]
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mcerd1
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 10:17 PM |
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edited ^^^
pintos never die, they just get lighter
[Edited on 3/4/09 by mcerd1]
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omega0684
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 10:20 PM |
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haha where has the link gone now?
you got any tips for getting the crank sprocket off, its the only thing im having real trouble with, i just can't move it
[Edited on 3/4/09 by omega0684]
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mcerd1
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 10:22 PM |
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have you got a puller that will fit behind it ?
(the links at the top that post now...)
[Edited on 3/4/09 by mcerd1]
[Edited on 3/4/09 by mcerd1]
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omega0684
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 10:24 PM |
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no my puller is too big and won't get in as the sprocket is in the bearing housing
yes mate got that link, and downloaded the pinto manual and had it on in the garage on my laptop whilst i was dismantling
[Edited on 3/4/09 by omega0684]
[Edited on 3/4/09 by omega0684]
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mcerd1
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| posted on 3/4/09 at 10:27 PM |
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take the alloy cover bit off with the crank - then belt it with a persuader
the des hammill book covers most things, apart form the bits that are in the haynes manual
it gave me a bit more confidence in what I was planning before I spent all that money on it 
[Edited on 3/4/09 by mcerd1]
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 4/4/09 at 02:28 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
Alex, did you see this link on the other thread - right down the bottom of the page
linky
quote:
Originally posted by omega0684quote:
Originally posted by stevec
Told you the head bolts would get your arms working
i felt like the HULK afterwards!
I've done 3 of these now and only the best one looked as good as that.....
its well on the way now though
it only took a hot dip and about 12 hours work with wire brush things on the drill to clean the block
[Edited on 3/4/09 by mcerd1]
[Edited on 3/4/09 by mcerd1]
Robert more in your line money wise How much link
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omega0684
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| posted on 4/4/09 at 10:18 AM |
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Robert more in your line money wise How much link
HOW MUCH !!
Is he a little optimistic at £4000!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 4/4/09 at 11:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by omega0684HOW MUCH !!
...actually thats not too bad a deal if all the bits are in good nick
[Edited on 4/4/09 by mcerd1]
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