maximill666
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 08:45 PM |
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R1 Turbo, supercharger or nitrous?
I am looking to fit either a turbo, supercharger or fit nitrous to my carb'd R1 motor & would like some advice on the pro's & cons
of each in a bec?
Budget around 3-4k but would be nice to spend less
I have been looking at holeshot turbo kits & tts supercharger kits, but wondering if there is maybe a locost alternative?
Any help & advice would be much appreciated
Thanks,
Lee.
[Edited on 4/5/09 by maximill666]
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jpindy3
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 08:53 PM |
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turboed
hi mate il tell you what its easy with your engine,im turboing a pinto on zx9r carbs,
if your stuck give me a shout
god it wont cost that much say 500 tops,search for all of my posts one one there is a link it tells you how to do it,turbo r1 good power 289bhp 12psi
boost
[Edited on 4/5/09 by jpindy3]
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omega0684
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 08:59 PM |
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how can you run carbs on a boosted engine, surely you need an efi system, ecu, injection, tb's etc. as well as an array of sensors, boost, inlet
air temp, lambda, tps, map etc etc
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beaver34
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 09:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
how can you run carbs on a boosted engine, surely you need an efi system, ecu, injection, tb's etc. as well as an array of sensors, boost, inlet
air temp, lambda, tps, map etc etc
renault r5 turbo is carb, afew people are turboing the aircooled vw engines now, but there running the r5 carb on them, i have mates who build turbo
busa engines for cars and drag bikes, but there not carbed
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zzr1100rick2
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 09:06 PM |
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think renault 5 turbo carbed wasnt it
bugger to slow
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jpindy3
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 09:08 PM |
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no no my man,vac bike carbs=turbo d
1-build a air tight chanber for the carbs to suck thrugh 2 outlets from the chamber to the 2 inlets for the vac on the carbs"that preurerises
above the diafram,than the big charge inlet you have a 10mm pipe across it with a pilot hole in it,these 2 outlets go to the fuel breathers on the
carbs ,this presurerises the floot boles
im crap at spelling
jamie
mate all your gona need is
a carbed turbo fuel presher regulater from burtons
a turbo t25 or t3 i think the t3 might be to big
maniflud
air tight chamber
inj fuel pump
new heavy cluch
hoses
oil pump
i carnt think of anything else,theres bound to be somthing i missed
jamie
[Edited on 4/5/09 by jpindy3]
[Edited on 4/5/09 by jpindy3]
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swalf3
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 09:16 PM |
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Supercharged R1 injection
Supercharged R1 will not produce as much HP as a Turbo.However the driving experience is very different.If it is for the road use it may not matter
but if you intend competing the charateristics of the power delivery are vital.Mine produced just over 200bhp at the rear wheels and feels like a
larger engined car to drive.It is frightening on the road as the car weighs just over 400kgs.Very reliable over 1k miles and apart from the
supercharger cost(Rotrex) the rest is straight forward.U2u if you need more information.
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locoR1
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 09:32 PM |
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Nearly all the info you will need to turbo an carded R1 can be found here www.turbo-bike.net
This is the site i used the info from to build mine from, two years on and still going strong 
 
Description
Check out my CB500T Cafe Racer build diary
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jpindy3
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 09:35 PM |
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thats the site,
well done mate
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 10:15 PM |
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Do both, turbo and nitrous
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maximill666
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 10:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Do both, turbo and nitrous
I likes your thinking
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 10:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by maximill666
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Do both, turbo and nitrous
I likes your thinking
Well that makes 2 people lol
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cloudy
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| posted on 4/5/09 at 10:54 PM |
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Do all three !!!
www.warnercars.com
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 5/5/09 at 01:07 AM |
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Is that even possible? 
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 5/5/09 at 06:16 AM |
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It's not impossible, but how feasible it is on an R1 in a BEC is the real question!
It's been done for years...
TURBO & SUPERCHARGING
If you would rather not do the work yourself then give this guy a call:
MB CUSTOMS
His name is Malc, number is:
01323 743 733
and he knows his bananas (to be fair he knows a lot about turboing bike engines too!) Oh and he's a spot on guy who calls a Spade, a Spade and
is a nice fella on top!
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Is that even possible?
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jpindy3
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| posted on 5/5/09 at 04:25 PM |
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sh;t your pants
turbo well set up say 300bhp
+noz well i dont know much about it but lets add 100bhp=400bhp
400bhp+bec400kg=800bhp per tone,i think.
the word undriveable comes to mind!
i think you should just stick to a good turbo set up,spend 1/4 of your budget and save the noz for the drag strip!
you might need a cupple bags of sand over the back though!!
good luck
jamie
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jpindy3
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| posted on 5/5/09 at 06:18 PM |
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to true,forge pistons are cheap for a bike,still it ant gona be much to get it,to that spec
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jpindy3
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| posted on 5/5/09 at 06:19 PM |
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to true,forge pistons are cheap for a bike,still it ant gona be much to get it,to that spec
speek to a bike engine builder,
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jpindy3
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| posted on 5/5/09 at 07:03 PM |
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is it,i thort i saw some bike forged piston on ebay,thay were deffently cast then
crist thats a klot of money!!!!!!!!
get a pinto,
?what is your project???
the inj will be alot easyer to set up,and do you think the inj engine might be a bit stronger like it is in cars???
[Edited on 5/5/09 by jpindy3]
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jpindy3
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| posted on 5/5/09 at 08:19 PM |
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thats the sane problem i have with using inj,
im just gona start using my zx9r carbs as that link you gave me shows that it not hard to preshure the carbs,and there for cheaper than getting a
ecu.
when i have finished this project,then im gona go to a megasqurt,and bike tbs,and a stronger bottom end,then some big boost,
i have nerley got all the bits i need now,im gona use a decomp plate,witch i got in the post today.
i had a result getting,a 4x4intercooler,boost gauge,and a silly dump valve,all for 60quid.
so the turbo dream gos on,
not far now
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