NS Dev
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 09:12 PM |
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Vauxhall Victor modification, what engine and box???????
Right, as mentioned elsewhere, one of our early projects at Retropower is a 1973 Vauxhall Victor. Its very original, has had only 2 owners and done
33,000 miles, and has its original bill of sale etc.......................
Now, we are not about to take it to any old shows as it is now!!
The plan is to undertake some fairly major mods, the most important of which is to change to engine and box from the current 2.3 slant four and auto
box to something a bit more like it!
We will be sticking with auto (from relevant engine) as it suits the american style of the car,but the question is, what to go for???
This has to include the effect it will have on car value, i.e. yes a full house LS7 would be great, but would be unlikely to recoup build value at
sale, and it does have to turn a profit!
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blakep82
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 09:14 PM |
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smallblock chevy for me! can't beat the sound
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dinosaurjuice
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 09:15 PM |
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got to be chevy IMO
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thunderace
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 09:24 PM |
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2l redtop
easy to do and with twin 45s will rip.
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dmac
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 09:29 PM |
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Should be a Vauxhall engine of a similar age, what about a 3.3l straight 6 from a Viscount/Cresta? I think they actually fitted this in the FE
bodyshell.
Duncan
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ReMan
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 09:30 PM |
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3.0 Carlton/Senator has got to be good value and in keeping?
[Edited on 12/5/09 by ReMan]
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NigeEss
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 09:45 PM |
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Straight six Carlton would be my choice. Chevy maybe but the six pot just seems right.
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Ketchup
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 09:48 PM |
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must be able to pick up a nice 325/525 or other bmw donor quite cheap... auto's a plenty, love the sound of a straight 6 
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blakep82
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 10:00 PM |
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vauxhall, GM, Chevy, all the same 
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Benzine
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 10:05 PM |
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Vauxhall
Victor
Volvo
^__^
The mental gymnastics a landlord will employ to justify immoral actions is clinically fascinating. Just because something is legal doesn't make
it moral.
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MikeR
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 10:20 PM |
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BMW - v8 and auto box shouldn't be hard to find.
In fact look up item 130305100133 on ebay.
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 11:52 PM |
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i think the chevy SB feels right
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UncleFista
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 01:11 AM |
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How about a BMW/VX straight 6 diesel ?
Dunno what that'd do for the resale value though
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 06:15 AM |
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4.0 Jag V8 but you knew that was coming
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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britishtrident
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 06:24 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dmac
Should be a Vauxhall engine of a similar age, what about a 3.3l straight 6 from a Viscount/Cresta? I think they actually fitted this in the FE
bodyshell.
Duncan
That would give a whole 133 bhp (SAE) --- the Vauxhall Ventora was no ball of fire.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 06:27 AM |
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A Honda 50 engine in place of the Vauxhall slant 4 would be an imptovement it was a truly horrible engine in SOHC form.
I never encountered one that didn't have a misfire.
The autobox was a "Turbo Hydramatic" so that will make an GM engine gearbox combination an easy fit.
Rover V8 with the GM autobox should go in quite easily
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MikeR
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 06:31 AM |
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Perhaps we're approaching this from the wrong angle - what are you doing for the rear axle? Just wondering how much power / torque it will take.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 06:37 AM |
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leaving it standard is the current plan, had a poke about and it looks pretty strong to be honest, its got decent location unlike later stuff like
mantas etc and a proper prop with no torque tube.
I may be wrong but the axle looks very similar to the whole setup in an opel commodore?
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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NS Dev
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 06:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
A Honda 50 engine in place of the Vauxhall slant 4 would be an imptovement it was a truly horrible engine in SOHC form.
I never encountered one that didn't have a misfire.
heh heh lol this one doesn't actually, but then it has only done 33k and has lived the last 10 years on display in a vauxhall main
dealer's showroom, so I guess it ought to run right!!
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retro car restoration and tuning
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britishtrident
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 06:43 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
leaving it standard is the current plan, had a poke about and it looks pretty strong to be honest, its got decent location unlike later stuff like
mantas etc and a proper prop with no torque tube.
I may be wrong but the axle looks very similar to the whole setup in an opel commodore?
If it is an FE its 100% Comodore, FD was a mixture of Comodore and Viva parts.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 06:49 AM |
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tis an FE. That's both good, and interesting, never knew there was that much collaboration between opel and vauxhall by what must have been the
late sixties (at the design stage of the FE)
Good because the std commodore axle is pretty robust!
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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britishtrident
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 10:41 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
tis an FE. That's both good, and interesting, never knew there was that much collaboration between opel and vauxhall by what must have been the
late sixties (at the design stage of the FE)
Good because the std commodore axle is pretty robust!
The FA Victor was nice to drive but it rusted like nothing else on earth, the FB Victor was a sucess a very nice motor but again it rusted, the FC
was a failure overweight horrible looking and of course it rusted.
Closely related to the Viva HB the Victor FD was largely GM US influenced body syling was not unlike a smaller version of the 67Impala like wise
the suspension followed the pattern GM had used on the 63 Impala. The FD was considered a failure so for the FE GM USA told Vauxhall to use the
complete Comodore floor plan but with the Vauxhall SOHC.
The flaws in this logic were that the FD failed because of the dreadful engine and the fact it was just a little too big for the market slot, The
FE was of course bigger and heavier and still used the awful engine.
Vauxhall were left without a real contender in the mid range until the excellent Ascona was rebaged as the RWD Cavalier.
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 11:30 AM |
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I voted other.
The other being a V6 omega of course or even better a Monaro V8
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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sickbag
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 11:35 AM |
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How about restoring it to its former glory, and keep it totally standard? Or am I missing something.
Finally back on the job!
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MikeR
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 12:23 PM |
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I've already discussed that with him.....
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