jonti
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 09:51 AM |
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YANKS KEEPING US ALL SAFE..WE LUV 'EM
I'm sure some of you regular emailers will have seen this already in some form or other but I thought I'd pass this on for the masses.
It's probably made up cos I've seen it in two forms both Ozzie and Canadian.... but somehow it's scarerilly believable......
As follows:-
This is a transcript of an actual radio conversation between a US naval ship with the Australian authorities off Cape York in the Coral Sea October
1995. Radio conversation released by the chief of naval operations, 10-10-95.
AUSTRALIANS: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.
AMERICANS: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
AUSTRALIANS: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.
AMERICANS: This is the captain of a US Navy Capital Ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.
AUSTRALIANS: No, I say again, you divert YOUR course.
AMERICANS: THIS IS THE UNITED SATES AIRCRAFT CARRIER NIMITZ, the second largest ship in the United States Pacific Fleet. We are accompanied by three
Destroyers, three Cruisers and numerous other support vessels. I DEMAND that you change your course 15 degrees South. I say again, that's
one-five degrees South, or counter-measures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship.
AUSTRALIANS: This is a lighthouse......Your call Captain..
[Edited on 15/3/04 by jonti]
OFROK
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JoelP
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 09:57 AM |
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rotf... funny one that!
Beware! Bourettes is binfectious.
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pbura
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 10:02 AM |
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The way I heard it was with the Italian navy at Cyprus
Pete
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 10:56 AM |
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Whilst in the Navy, I was part of a NATO excercise in the Med. 13 ships doing a proceedure to mask the fleets intended couse from radar. What you do
is basically to zig zag at various headings with the net result being your intended course. On one course change 12 ships made a 40 degree course
change to port, and the USS Spattenburg County veered off to starboard, unfortunately, she was on the middle of the fleet. The chaos that resulted was
unbelievable, several near collisions, emergency turns, cooks getting burned in the galley.............
Another excercise, about 20 ships doing a simulated attack on Gibraltar, in the middle, the Americans called a 'safeguard' (basically this
is when something happens for real, and you know that the message is not part of the excercise i.e. Fire in the galley - wander down and pretend to
put out a fire, SAFEGUARD Fire in the galley - Its really on fire!!!). The message was 'Safeguard temporary halt to excercise', a few
seconds later, a helo left one of the US ships with a Coke machine slung from under, and took it to another. A little later Safeguard - Resume
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Findlay234
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 11:21 AM |
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dont know if youll all have fast enough connections to download this but it just shows the americans attitude to war, throw as much money (ie
weaponry) against an enemy. 3 iraqi troopers on the ground on foot vs. apache. Guess who wins.......
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splitrivet
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 11:28 AM |
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Like when my dad was fighting in Burma he said when the brits where bombarding the japs they'd pull back 1 mile,when the Yanks where bombarding
they'd pull back 5 miles ands they still dropped shells/bombs on us.
Tried to contact you over the w/e Jonti see if you were going Stafford just got your voicemail.
Cheers,
Bob
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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jonti
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 11:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by pbura
The way I heard it was with the Italian navy at Cyprus
I think its probably one of those "adapt to fit" stories actually.....That's why we tell "Irish Jokes", you tel
"Polish Jokes" and the Irish tell "Kerryman Jokes".
Bob...
Yeah sorry mate JUST picked up your V/Mail ...I went over just to do a bit of shopping first thing on Saturday Morning. Didnt stay long but bought
lights and piles of trim.
OFROK
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 12:00 PM |
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There's a famous bit of film from WW II, of the yanks trying to bomb the monastery on Monte Casino in Italy.
One bomber missed the whole mountain, and nearly trashed the British HQ in the town of Casino itself, a few miles away...
David
P.S. In fairness to the US airforce, the RAF worked out the percentage of effective bombs in proportion to the total dropped (in other words, hit the
intended target). I believe that it was something like 1 or 2 percent...
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Findlay234
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 02:44 PM |
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Sorry here is the apache video:::
very amusing
http://members.lycos.co.uk/findlay234/hpbimg/apache_helicopter_vs_iraqis.mpeg
Damn, doesnt work, one moment guys ill have it online in a minute.....
[Edited on 15/3/04 by Findlay234]
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Staple balls
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 03:04 PM |
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worked for me
a few observations though
the iraqi's were unarmed, they were NOT hostile, the one on the left looked like he was trying to surrender.
but no, they were cut down anyway
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Alan B
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 03:19 PM |
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Yes I agree with your observations, and that's what makes me doubt the authenticity of the clip......I'm not saying something like this
couldn't happen, just doubt the clip would get out...
IMO
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Staple balls
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 03:56 PM |
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hmmm, i'm not so sure.
they did manage to release a clip of a friendly fire incedent too,
and you have to remember there's a huge amount of leaked footage aswell..
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jonti
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 04:31 PM |
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Steady boys I never intended this to be a Yank Bashing session merely a light hearted dig at our cousins over the water
Shit happens in war. I personally, and suspect most of you, don't know how we'd behave in a combat situation, at night when we're
being shot at and perhaps our mate's had been blown to bits the day before.
I wouldn't like to do it and think anyone who does should be cut loads of slack.
Gets off soapbox.
OFROK
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Alan B
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 04:41 PM |
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Jonti....good points and I agree.....
Living out here in the US and having many American friends and colleagues I find that the loud, brash and gung-ho stereotype is very untypical,
certainly of the people I know......in fact I'm probably louder and more obnoxious than all of the people I know...
Did I just say that out loud?...
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timf
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 04:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
in fact I'm probably louder and more obnoxious than all of the people I know...
sober or drunk is that Alan
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 04:53 PM |
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Afraid the apache video ... isn't.....
That is not to say that the real thing doesn't exist
Let's just say that I 'understand' the original is far worse
err.. alegedly err... can't really say any more... err
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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Alan B
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 05:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by timf
quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
in fact I'm probably louder and more obnoxious than all of the people I know...
sober or drunk is that Alan
Pretty much all the time.....
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Findlay234
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 06:01 PM |
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firstly how can you fake that video?
second, talking about casualties of war i read a statistic a while ago that during the 2nd world war the britsh bombers had a certain accuracy ratio
(cant remember exaclty) but a hit was classed as within 3km radius around target. even with this large area the figure wasnt amazing
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Alan B
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 06:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Findlay234
firstly how can you fake that video?.......
If you know what you are doing I'd say quite easily.....
I'm not saying it IS fake, just that I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
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Staple balls
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 06:52 PM |
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it would be fakable
but it'd be one *hell* of a job
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Alan B
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 07:01 PM |
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Agreed....and that's what makes it so good....and realistic..... no doubt.
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Peteff
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 07:08 PM |
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They didn't look too bothered about getting away, I think I would have been legging it in the opposite direction, pronto.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Findlay234
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 07:23 PM |
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the two guys do hide behind the vehicles, on on side the guy crouches behind a tractor or something like it and on the other side a truck, the thing
is in the middle of the night and all of a sudden your mate blows up you wont know where the enemy are coming from, let alone realise its from the
heavens.
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jonti
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 07:42 PM |
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Fake or not...Like I said......In war Shit Happens and I would have thought you don't have much time to think about right and wrong.........just
your own neck. Think i'da shot the buggers !!
[Edited on 15/3/04 by jonti]
OFROK
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 15/3/04 at 07:47 PM |
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It was definately NOT filmed from a helicopter for a start.... I am 100% certain of that....
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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