gaz_gaz
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 12:25 AM |
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a rant about people
what the hell is wrong with some people,
i agreed to sell my car too someone, deal done, £1000 deposit paid as there was 2 other interested parties.
off my own back i spent a good 400 quid sorting little niggles he hadnt even seen.
nothing major, just 2 new rear tyres, geometry, an electric window switch and some little trim pieces for the boot
had the car proffesionaly valeted inside and out today and filled with petrol ready,
Drove it from Brighton to him up near Birmingham as he wasnt insured,
he shows up 2 hrs late with 4 friends and decides the original deal wasnt good enough.
long story short after lots of haggling we couldnt reach an agreement so i brought my car home, i've spent £300 on it today between valet and
fuel not to mention fixing the niggles and i now have to refund his deposit,
Some people just annoy me.
OH and it pissed down all the way home
and i missed the junction onto the M25 from the M40 and ended up in Central London,
Pretty crappy day really,
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RK
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 12:46 AM |
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I've never bought a car where the guy filled up beforehand. I'd say you you went out of your way, and I'd be a bit steamed too.
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DorsetStrider
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 12:55 AM |
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Why are you refunding his deposit?
The point of a deposit is a commitment to buy and to compensate the seller should you renage on the deal.
Who the f**K tightened this up!
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ReMan
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 12:57 AM |
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So what was the point of the deposit?
I'd be wanting at least a cut of it to cover your costs as you mention
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zilspeed
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 06:33 AM |
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As above.
He could swing for the deposit as far as I'm concerned.
He welched on the deal - goodbye deposit.
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flak monkey
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 07:08 AM |
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Yep, dont give him his deposit back! Thats the whole point of taking one!
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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expatkiwi
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 07:14 AM |
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Does he know where you live?
Is he big and ugly?
Seriously he renegged on the deal and commited to buy. Tell him to shove the deposit and if he doesnt like it he can take you to court where it will
more than likely cost more than the 1k to get his money back. The only reason he had "mates" with him is that he was trying to act like a
heavy. If he comes to you give us all a shout and we will me your mates and turn up to help you. Imagine that all the people off the forum at yours
for cup of tea and a fight
Keep the money
I have decided to call my Westfeild "The Caterhammer" Hopefully it will
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 07:19 AM |
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Definately dont return the deposit. Think of it as compensation for your wasted time and work.
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Staple balls
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 07:25 AM |
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Agreed.
I certainly wouldn't offer the deposit back.
However, I'd get some advice from a solicitor before outright refusing to give it back.
There's every chance you're within your rights to keep it, but personally, I'd like to be sure, that way if he does get arsey, you
can ignore him.
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expatkiwi
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 07:27 AM |
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Give the citezins(sp) advice a call. I can highley recomend them
I have decided to call my Westfeild "The Caterhammer" Hopefully it will
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robinj66
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 07:36 AM |
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Don't necessarily keep all of the deposit but work out what it cost you to take the car to him (fuel, time, additional mileage, valet etc)
Whatever sum you decide to retain, let him know that you are keeping it for purposes of compensating your expenses .
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gaz_gaz
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 08:08 AM |
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Well i didnt want to get into an argument with four 20 something lads last night so i didnt say too much about the deposit other than i'd sort
it out.
I'm going to speak to him today and explain i've missed out on 2 other sales now and found myself out of pocket so i'll be refunding
part deposit.
The money isnt even the real issue.
Its the time i wasted,
the fact i had too drive my car in the pissing rain when i never use it in the wet.
and now i need to go through the hassle of re-advertising it.
and i need to wait even longer for a BEC 
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 08:18 AM |
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Think there may be a lesson for all of us there, If a buyer really wanted the car he would have arranged insurance and collected it ?. Before getting
in touch with him about returning the deposit at least get in touch with C.A.B. . The money you have spent on tyres may be irrelevant to the deal as
you have fitted them off your own back ??
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jpindy3
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 08:37 AM |
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i would keep the money you have spent and give him the rest to get him off your back,
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oldtimer
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 08:49 AM |
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I think you have tried a little too hard here . As mentioned, a serious buyer would have arranged insurance and collected the car. In 30 odd years of
buying and selling cars and motorcycles I have never delivered or had delivered a vehicle. Delivering like that really does put you at a disadvantage
- you have done so much you look desperate for a sale (whether the case or not) and a lad with his mates behind him makes haggling very difficult for
you. I believe you are morally due full expenses for the trip - not the tyres/valet/niggles fixing if that was not agreed with him. If you added value
to the car with these extra costs then they still exist in the value of the car and it should now be worth more. Check with CAB for your legal
position on return of deposit - it could be that unless you told him it would be forfit then you may have to return all/part of it. Good luck and
it's all part of life's learning process.
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 08:54 AM |
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As above really.
Work out your expenses for fuel, and time, and deduct it from the deposit.
Personally, i wouldnt refund the deposit at all as it was he that decided he no longer wanted to purchase the car.
If you put a deposit on a car at a dealership, you wouldnt get it back if you backed out. The idea being that it demonstrated commitment from the
buyer, and prevents the dealer from selling it on.
You would normally only get the deposit transferred to another vehicle or returned if your very pally with the dealership.
I would have driven to him as well, as his deposit shows commitment, but i wouldnt have spent any more than needed to get the car ready.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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gaz_gaz
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 09:02 AM |
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well to be fair the inital deal we agreed was fair on both parties i felt.
i figured if i sorted the niggles i knew about that he hadnt spotted when it came to finishing the deal there would be absolutly no cause for any
hassle.
I only agreed to take the car too him after he had paid me a deposit.
It wouldnt have been much of an issue as i had friends i could visit not too far away so didnt really mind taking the car for one last drive before
handing her over.
Unfortunatly he showed up 2 hrs late and by the time everything was done it was hammering with rain, late and getting dark so i decided to just set
off back home.
I'll just put this down to 1 of lifes experiances and never do anything for anyone again
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Steve G
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 09:22 AM |
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What a complete scumbag. As above, keep a proportion of the deposit to cover your expenses and dont forget to add in the cost of readvertising the
car. It sounds like he's had every intention of trying to get your car cheaper by turning up with his 4 mates to act as intimidation. I feel for
you mate - some people just havent got a clue so definately make sure he pays for it.
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rayward
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 09:31 AM |
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when you say he hadn;t spotted the niggles, had he viewed thec car before giving a deposit?,
if he did then as above, thats his problem, but did you you agree the deposit was no refundable or not?
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easisatman
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 10:03 AM |
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I was going to buy a part built 7style car from someone a couple of years ago I paid the guy a deposit and was going to go back to uk and trailer it
back to Spain.
I then found out it was not possible to re register it back here in Spain. so I caled the seller andwas very sorry for wasting his time and he offerd
me the deposit back.!!
Which I refused as I felt bad about wasting his time and he could have sold it to someone else .
so I dont think he will be to suprised at losing some of the deposit, as its him whos backed out of an agreement.
Paul
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gaz_gaz
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 11:07 AM |
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thing is this isnt really about the deposit for me,
its just annoying that he was happy enough to put down a deposit then go back and change his mind,
If it wasnt for a couple of bec's selling before i could go look at them, (Matt C's) and the black and orange Mac 1 on Pistonheads i might
have bought 1 or put a deposit down and left myself in abit of a mess,
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 07:20 PM |
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quote:
thing is this isnt really about the deposit for me
No probably it is not BUT he's pee'd you off so get your own back by keeping it. If you don't then what was the point of taking it
in the first place?? If it was for him to show good faith then you've still been cheated.
If it was for him to secure the car then you've still been cheated.
Lets face it you've been cheated, you've had your time wasted, you've gone beyond the call of duty ( by a long way).
And he wants his deposit back????
You both need to get a grip on things.
Keep the money it'll refund your expenses/time and he'll learn a lesson the hard way.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 07:49 PM |
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What deposit? 
Well you put 2 new tyres on it, that's what £150?
Then sorting out the scratches and bits of trim, another £350
Then petrol, call it £60 (I can easily put that much in mine) and the time to drive down there what's that 2-4 hours each way at £x per hour,
then two hours waiting and the drive back. Keep the deposit, tell him it's paying for your time at however much an hour will cover it and
he's f**king lucky you were there at all with him being 2 hours late.
If anyone's 2 hours late with me I make them look like a right tit and tell them I've been and gone pal, and of course I'll come
back (maybe, next week )
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Liam
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 08:44 PM |
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Deduct your expenses (not the work on the car) and give him back the rest. Matter of principle.
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02GF74
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| posted on 13/7/09 at 10:45 PM |
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lesson to be learnt - do not go out of your way to sell a car. If someone is serous, they will come to your address.
second lesson - never turn away other propsective buyers until you have the cash in your hand - been there, done that ......
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