big-vee-twin
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 09:34 AM |
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ZETEC SE Engine
Hi All,
Been reading about the SE engine looks like a great power plant, however there isn't as much info out there as for the 'standard'
Zetec.
Do these engines need a lowered sump and if so where would you get one from?
I've found a bell housing to go onto the Type 9.
I've also found shawspeed also regarding tuning.
Just wanted to make sure they are usable before buying.
Anyone using one?
Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
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lotusmadandy
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 10:02 AM |
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I could be way off the mark here but from what i have learned about the SE engine there are not many parts available for a rebuild.
A bloke i know has one in his focus and he snapped the cam belt.when he tried to get parts he was told it was a throw away engine and he needed a new
one.
The exhaust is on the same side as the pinto but personaly i would use a zetec s.
Lots of tuning bits available and reliable.
Thats just my two penarth worth and no doubt i will be shot down in flames in a minute
Andy
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Davegtst
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 10:05 AM |
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This is true, Ford will not sell you a set of pistons, rods or even bearings. They will only sell you a complete short engine. You can get pistons
from a very few motor factors though.
[Edited on 21/3/10 by Davegtst]
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smuty
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 10:11 AM |
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Ye we have one to install , as far as ive found out you got the choice of dry sump (very expensive) or caterham use the SE and i picked one of there
sumps for about £90 of ebay
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 10:12 AM |
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Burton Power have started stocking some tunning parts for the SE
The 1.7 in my old puma was a good engine BUT The 2 ltr duratec in my ST is so much better.
Paul
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tul214
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 10:13 AM |
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beaver34 has one.....
link
1.6 Raw Super6 sold
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terryroberts
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 10:48 AM |
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i'll have a chat at work see what i can find out. we only build about 2500 of these a day. if you boys can hang on the new ecoboost motor will
be built soon. 1.6 185bhp.
cheers terry
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coozer
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 12:09 PM |
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From what I've heard they are prone to big end failer...
1.8 zetecs can be much cheaper, are easier to tune and give more power.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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beaver34
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 12:51 PM |
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i have one,
massive underrated IMO
all bearing and parts you can get, great high revving and very light, run mine for 3 years revving to 8k on stock bottom end no problems, mine ran
cams headwork busa throttle bodies and made 175bhp and 130lbft run like this for 3 years, im now rebuilding it with rods pistons wilder cams some work
on the crank and it should see 200bhp,
i run a standard baffled sump at the moment but will use a accusump for track use, shawspeed do all the parts and can do shortened sumps and jon is
fantastic to deal with and prices are very good drop me a u2u if you require any more info
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 01:56 PM |
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I have seen a lot of spares and tuning parts for these, Caterham after extensive trials use them to replace the rover engine.
All alloy, designed by Yamaha and rev like stink.
I think these units sit between car and bike engines and seem to have best of both worlds- very tunable, very light, and a proper reverse gear.
Thanks for all your replies. Beaver I may be in touch thanks
Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
http://www.triangleltd.com
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RK
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 02:21 PM |
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As long as I can find a suitable transmission, I think I just may have found my new engine! Just looking ahead...
Do a looksee on Wiki for the "Ford Ecoboost" and you'll be drooling in no time.
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 03:40 PM |
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Sounds to me like the Zetec is about to become very cheap!!
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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lotusmadandy
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 05:23 PM |
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I consider myself shot down in afore mentioned flames
Andy
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RK
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 05:40 PM |
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why would anybody want zetec if brand new, cheap as can be, ecoboosts will soon be out there? As long as the transmission thing will work (Mazda or
Transit van I suppose are the candidates)... Even now, the Zetecs are, what, 700 pounds new?
BTW, how much does it cost to get one of those crate engines in Locost configuration (fuel rail change, exhaust, intake manifold, carbs vs EFI etc)?
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beaver34
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 06:06 PM |
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eco boost engine will be over 3k to buy and there wont be many in scrap cars for a while yet, although i would like a play with one in the kit car,
maybe next year
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RK
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 07:03 PM |
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I sincerely doubt they will be 3k to buy once they've been out 6 months. Remember, the Zetec new is not generally out of donors for most people
now.
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terryroberts
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 07:22 PM |
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as soon as there are put into production i'll get a price for one. i reckon i should be able to get one a fair bit cheaper than 3k. these motors
are going in fiesta's,focus's,mondeo's.. and a 2ltr motor will be made awell..
cheers terry
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beaver34
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 09:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by terryroberts
as soon as there are put into production i'll get a price for one. i reckon i should be able to get one a fair bit cheaper than 3k. these motors
are going in fiesta's,focus's,mondeo's.. and a 2ltr motor will be made awell..
cheers terry
a duratech crate motor is £2,700 plus surcharge and vat, that with no inlet no exhaust no sensors no egr or anything never mind a turbo ontop of that,
i work for ford in their parts side aswell everthing has gone up quite alot in the last 1-2 years, short motor for the se was £400 its now £720
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eddie99
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 09:07 PM |
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As someone people have stated. Its more than waiting just 6months. Its going to be 6 months before they are on the market for £2k standard, will be
2-3 years before they are the price of zetec's now. Well thats what i think, happy to be proven wrong in this case though.
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Chet
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| posted on 20/9/10 at 02:39 AM |
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I'm very interested in the Ecoboost 1.6 and six speed manual trans.
Any updates on pricing or availability?
How do we handle the new DFI systems?
Does anyone know if the new six speed could be used with the earlier Zetec SE engine?
Thanks
Chet
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Chet
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| posted on 13/10/10 at 07:02 PM |
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Any updates?
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Chet
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| posted on 2/12/12 at 11:19 PM |
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Still waiting here in the USA for Ford to actually release the crate verision of the 1.6 EcoBoost.
It's my undertanding that prices and availability will be formally announced this year but that's what Ford said last year!
Any info available?
Thanks
Chet
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beaver34
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| posted on 3/12/12 at 06:25 AM |
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1.6 eco boost 160/180bhp
Ford uk finis number F1768236
retail price £3,766+ VAT
that is engine only no inlet or turbo etc.....
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Chet
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| posted on 8/12/12 at 02:50 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
1.6 eco boost 160/180bhp
Ford uk finis number F1768236
retail price £3,766+ VAT
that is engine only no inlet or turbo etc.....
OK - Plan B
Are there any complete 1.6 EcoBoost engines and manual trans available at the breakers yet?
Might also consider the 1000 EcoBoost setup.
Thanks
Chet
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rdodger
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| posted on 8/12/12 at 12:01 PM |
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The perfect gearbox for a Zetec SE
200bhp screamer!
All I need now is the 10k required to buy the engine and box!
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