thegodplato
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posted on 21/5/10 at 11:44 AM |
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Ducati Power
Hi, not that I am going to do this, but has anyone used a Ducati engine before. They sound great and I know thats not a good enough reason but
thought I'd ask anyhow!
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scootz
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posted on 21/5/10 at 11:49 AM |
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I'm sure someone somewhere probably has, but the only reason I can think of to go ahead and do it is... well... because it came from a
Ducati!
If I had to do something with a V-twin, then I'd probably go for an Aprilia or TLR lump.
It's Evolution Baby!
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franky
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posted on 21/5/10 at 12:00 PM |
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Which motor are you thinking of? Avoid the aircooled
lumps, a 1200cc motor would be my choice, it'd show a 1000cc 4 cyl a clean pair of heals!
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scootz
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posted on 21/5/10 at 12:05 PM |
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In a car??? I don't think there would be much in it.
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thegodplato
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posted on 21/5/10 at 12:23 PM |
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why not in a car? Surely if it fits in a bike, it will be OK in a car, unless its far too tall??
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scootz
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posted on 21/5/10 at 12:31 PM |
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I was responding to Franky's suggestion of the 1200cc V-twin engine showing a Litre sportsbike engine a clean pair of heels...
It's Evolution Baby!
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iank
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posted on 21/5/10 at 01:13 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by scootz
I was responding to Franky's suggestion of the 1200cc V-twin engine showing a Litre sportsbike engine a clean pair of heels...
Really? a 1200cc Ducati engine puts out 177bhp. I was under the impression most of the 1 litre sports bikes put out nearer 150bhp.
Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_1098
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r1_pete
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posted on 21/5/10 at 01:15 PM |
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With the desmodromic valve gear the ducati engine is tall, and in car orientation as wide too, so probably wouldn't fit in a 7 style.
I doubt the clutch would last terribly well, they don't do too well in the bike, and with the additional heat round the engine due to it being
enclosed the cambelts would need more frequent attention, its frequent enough, and a PITA to replace them on the bike.
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fha772
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posted on 21/5/10 at 01:32 PM |
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They're a great engine, but reliability could be an issue.
As my cousin says, the reason he owns a collection of 8 Ducatis is so he is sure at least 1 will start in the morning!!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
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franky
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posted on 21/5/10 at 02:43 PM |
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Rev for rev they make quite a bit more power and torque than a modern il4 so surely that would make a standard one better suited to a car? Worth it
for the noise alone! The recent ones are reliable too, with the shape of the engine I thought it'd lend its self well to a 7 chassis?
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Simon
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posted on 21/5/10 at 04:04 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by r1_pete
I doubt the clutch would last terribly well,
It's a Duc, none of it will last very well. In fact every reason I can think of for not using one in a car (or a bike for that matter) is cos
it's a Ducatti.
A friend bought a new Duc and it had an engine rebuild within 3k miles!
ATB
Simon
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RIE
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posted on 21/5/10 at 05:02 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by iank
quote: Originally posted by scootz
I was responding to Franky's suggestion of the 1200cc V-twin engine showing a Litre sportsbike engine a clean pair of heels...
Really? a 1200cc Ducati engine puts out 177bhp. I was under the impression most of the 1 litre sports bikes put out nearer 150bhp.
Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_1098
The 1198 engine has only been around for a couple of years (firstly in the £26K 1098R, and you had to put in use the included race ECU and Termignoni
exhausts to get it all), a recent I4 would manage that no problem (08-on fireblade, BMW S1000RR).
If money was no object* how about a D16RR?
*A bit of pointless phrase on LCB, maybe
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oldtimer
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posted on 21/5/10 at 06:02 PM |
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Having had Suzuki and Ducati twins I'm also a bit dubious about their suitability, especially the Duke. Clutch fragility has already been
mentioned - may be worth it for the sound alone mind......
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MakeEverything
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posted on 21/5/10 at 08:40 PM |
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^^Ditto with old timer.
Both TLR and Ducati engines require precise operation of the clutch which (i understand) is an issue for BEC's at the best of times?
My old TLR clutch was pretty much either on or off and needed forearms like popeye to commute in traffic.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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