speedyxjs
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 07:56 AM |
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Donor for next project
My next project is going to be a Land Rover Series 3 or Defender which i want to make a bit... different.
My plan is to make it more economical, comfortable and basically, suitable for long drives.
The later two points should be easily solved with some better seats, sound proofing and carpets.
The problem i am having is deciding on an engine to make what is essencially a brick, more economical.
I want a diesel and it needs to be fairly common to keep costs down. I was thinking about a Jaguar AJD V6 but i am bias and it might prove abit on the
costly side.
Does anyone have any idea's for a suitable engine?
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trextr7monkey
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 08:07 AM |
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Dunno the details (or if it fits) but a bloke near us runs range rovers and he fits them with Toyota engines which he reckons are more reliable and
economical- an avenue to investigate further?
atb
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nnrouty
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 08:10 AM |
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Depends what you want to use your disco for.....
Do you intend to tow anything?
As long as its fast.... i don't care
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Miks15
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 08:12 AM |
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or do like bowler did and fit that supercharged Jag V8 
What about a V8 with an LPG conversion?
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brianthemagical
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 08:19 AM |
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I'm pretty sure some of the later LR engines are used for conversions.
And are Transit engines used at some point?
Poss worth a look see.
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tegwin
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 09:10 AM |
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I would imagine an engine from a shogun/toyota pickup would be more economical than the landy lump....perhaps...
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russbost
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 09:31 AM |
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Wouldn't you be better off starting with a complete vehicle with a suitable economic engine in rather than having to re-engineer everything to
fit the Landy?
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dinosaurjuice
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 09:55 AM |
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just my opinion, but i think making a landrover efficient is a waste of time. 
unless your prepared to fit very narrow low rolling resistance tyres, which will cause it to blow all over the place at high speed. and shed loads of
weight.
Fitting a newer diesel is a good idea. I would stay away from common rail engines though. I know from experience how much of a pain they can be to
wire up. A nice simple VW tdi would be ideal. Possibly a 2.5 5 cylinder from a T4 van?! or a transit engine, there used in the latest defenders.
Will
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adithorp
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 11:05 AM |
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I've driven a couple with Isuzu diesel convertions in them. Massive improvement over the l/rover units.
adrian
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mgmiller
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 12:13 PM |
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How about something like this.
http://www.ncfblitz.co.uk/page10a.html
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 02:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Miks15
or do like bowler did and fit that supercharged Jag V8
Dont tempt me 
To answer nnrouty, it will be used for towing and the reason i am after a series 3 or defender is because a) i like the look of them b) it will be
used as a van and sign written etc and c) it should help show off my engineering skills to interested customers
Thanks for the reply's. Got some good idea's going now
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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Irony
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 02:17 PM |
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I think that if you took a Diesel Landy and then instead of putting a more economical engine in it you put the money for the conversion into the
diesel tank it would be really economical vs the converted version.
My brother tried to create a diesel motor bike once from a small diesel engined van. But it was very annoying to ride as you had a manual gear lever
sticking out one side and you have to ride one handed to change gear.
[Edited on 18/8/10 by Irony]
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gottabedone
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 04:02 PM |
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What about the 2.0 diesel from the 2004 onward X Type. 130 Bhp and 45 to the gallon. A plush interior shouldn't add to much to the weight of
your Landy so it should cope..............but then a v6 is a v6 
Steve
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interestedparty
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 04:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Irony
I think that if you took a Diesel Landy and then instead of putting a more economical engine in it you put the money for the conversion into the
diesel tank it would be really economical vs the converted version.
I can see that, the amount of money people spend in order to save money is horrendous.
For instance "my new diesel gets 45mpg" and forget to mention that it cost them £16,000, whereas my old petrol vehicle cost £600.
Admittedly they might sell it in 3 years and it will be wort a lot more than mine (which will still be £600) but it will be a f**k of a lot less than
they paid for it.
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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mark chandler
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| posted on 18/8/10 at 06:16 PM |
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Do not get a series truck, not at all nice to drive when new on cart springs.
People have tried lots of conversions, I had a range rover with a Diahatsu diesel, these make a nice conversion but for real economy you will need a
very modern engine.....
I doubt with the time and effort involved weather you would improve on a well set up 200 or 300TDI engine.
When you had the old turbo D's it made sence, not anymore.
Regards Mark
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