Printable Version | Subscribe | Add to Favourites
New Topic New Poll New Reply
Author: Subject: Tyre wear at front - Why ????
sooty

posted on 28/7/11 at 09:52 PM Reply With Quote
Tyre wear at front - Why ????

Had my front suspension settings (Camber, Castor and Tracking) checked a few months ago and all was OK.

But why are the tyres on the L/F wearing on the inside and R/F wearing on the outside very edges, wanting them to be changed before the main tread is anywhere near the legal min..

If it was the other way round I could understand this being due to road camber etc.

Any clues ??????

Thanks

[Edited on 28/7/11 by sooty]

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
austin man

posted on 28/7/11 at 09:58 PM Reply With Quote
may help to post what car you have





Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
sooty

posted on 28/7/11 at 10:16 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry,

To be Honest its not my Striker, but my main car a STi Scoobie with fully adjustable front end including spring heights.

thanks

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
austin man

posted on 28/7/11 at 10:24 PM Reply With Quote
if you have opposite wear ie inside on one wheel and outside on the other I would think the camber is wrong. It seem as though you have negative on one wheel and positrive on the other





Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
Doctor Derek Doctors

posted on 29/7/11 at 09:31 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sooty

STi Scoobie with fully adjustable front end including spring heights.



How well was it set-up? It could be any number of things if it wasn't set-up correctly when the adjustable front end was added.

Camber issues seem to be the most likely though, or perhaps the car is 'crabbing'?

The again have you double checked the wheels and tyres? If you have outside/inside tyres that are on incorrectly or different offset wheels side-side then this could cause an issue? Does an STI Subaru have different wheel offset/size front-rear? Perhaps you have a front and rear wheel mixed up from when tyres were fittted of modifications made.

When I was at a Porsche Race team we had a customers road car that we did some work on, we could never get the thing to drive straight though and the handling was wierd, we checked it on manual and laser gauges, corner weights and the string until we were blue in the face.
After almost giving up we put the wheels from another car on and it solved the issue. So we measued the circumfrences of the tyres and although both rear tyres were brand new P-Zeros of the same size we found a 15mm difference in the circumfrence of the rear tyres, wierdly Pirelli took them back without argument and never mentioned it again.





Designer and Supplier of the T89 Designs - Single Seater Locost. Build you own Single Seater Racecar for ~£5k.

Plans and Drawings available, U2U or e-mail for details.

Available Now: The Sports Racer Add-On pack, Build a full bodied Sports Racer for Trackdays, Sprints and Racing.



www.t89.co.uk
www.racecarwings.co.uk

callan@t89.co.uk

NOTE:This user is registered as a LocostBuilders trader and may offer commercial services to other users
View User's Profile Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
hughpinder

posted on 29/7/11 at 01:43 PM Reply With Quote
I had a similar wear thing on a rover 820 I had - the handling wasn't quite right, but it was only after the (new) spare wore out after in about 1/5 of the normal time that I found out it was a 195/65R14 and the other 4were 195/55/R15. Everyone at work laughed themselves silly, but two people subsequently checked theirs and found the same problem - wheels had been upgraded when the car was first sold, but the full sized spare hadn't.

You can get wear on one edge of a tyre if the camber is wrong, springs worn or damping wrong do it too. I guess if one of your springs has the wrong length, poundage or adjustable mount wrongly set , then this could happen.

Regards
Hugh

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
britishtrident

posted on 29/7/11 at 03:21 PM Reply With Quote
Sounds like camber but the I would check for a broken or sagging spirng first ---- check all 4 springs ,
Then on a level floor check the car is sitting level (transversly) in the condition it is normally driven --- ie driver's weight in the car and only then set the camber and toe with the drivers weight in the car.





[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
[/I]

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
sooty

posted on 29/7/11 at 08:42 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the replies

The alloys are all same size as for offsets, all tyres are same size although fronts are Falken's and rears Toyo's and all are right directions on rims.

Having new Falkens fitted to front tomorrow and tracking checked again.

During next week going for a 4 wheel laser and suspension check. If all is OK, I will then show the tyres and await comments as why the tyre wear.

My only problem maybe where the 4 corner weights maybe correct, but as it's so stiff its not knowing if the adjustable damper setting/ratings are the same one side to the other.

Will keep posted the outcome later in the week.

thanks

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
phelpsa

posted on 29/7/11 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
The damper issue is quite easily solved but will require dismantling it and having them dyno'd.






View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
Mark Allanson

posted on 29/7/11 at 08:52 PM Reply With Quote
If the Geo was set up statically, then the problem must be in the dynamics. The camber change on bump and droop must be out and the only way that can happen is if the subframe has been shunted laterally due to impact, and then adjusted out. That would give exactly the symptoms you describe asymetrical suspension!





If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation

View User's Profile Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member

New Topic New Poll New Reply


go to top






Website design and SEO by Studio Montage

All content © 2001-16 LocostBuilders. Reproduction prohibited
Opinions expressed in public posts are those of the author and do not necessarily represent
the views of other users or any member of the LocostBuilders team.
Running XMB 1.8 Partagium [© 2002 XMB Group] on Apache under CentOS Linux
Founded, built and operated by ChrisW.