flak monkey
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 10:45 AM |
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Petition to reintroduce the rolling historic tax exemption
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/183
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 11:08 AM |
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done i want my landy to be free to tax :-)
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 11:12 AM |
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Done. doubt it will work though, the government would loose too much income
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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Triton
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 11:44 AM |
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OOOO Yes please my camper is 28 years old so free road tax would be most dandy 
My Daughter has taken over production of the damn fine Triton race seats and her contact email is emmatrs@live.co.uk.
www.tritonraceseats.com
www.hairyhedgehog.com
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mcerd1
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 11:53 AM |
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as much as we'd all like them to, I can't see them changing it
I've always reconned they'll start it rolling again when it gets to 50 years.... (ie. 2023  )
[Edited on 30/8/2011 by mcerd1]
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scootz
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 11:57 AM |
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I sometimes think you need to pick your battles and I fear that this one is a complete non-starter.
We are in a time of austerity... strike one.
The environmentalists would have a heart attack at the thought of the most damaging polluters getting a free-reign... strike two.
I would keep our heads below the parapet and save our voice for when they seriously think about OUTLAWING vehicles that don't meet a strict
emissions test (it's coming!).
It's Evolution Baby!
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mark chandler
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 12:12 PM |
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"reintroduce" the rolling historic tax exemption
It never existed, just exempt before some point in 1973 so a period in time, nothing rolling about it!
If you can prove manufacture before the date you can still get exempt even if your car is a couple of months over by registration.
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blakep82
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 12:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
"reintroduce" the rolling historic tax exemption
It never existed, just exempt before some point in 1973 so a period in time, nothing rolling about it!
If you can prove manufacture before the date you can still get exempt even if your car is a couple of months over by registration.
it did. it used to be any car over 25 years old. tony blair did away with it in 1998 and set the year as 1973. if he hadn't done that, then any
car over 25 years old NOW would be tax exempt.
anyway, it would encourage people to recycle  old cars to keep their 'classics' on the road, instead of using loads of energy and carbon
emissions (if you believe in all that) to make new rubbish cars
[Edited on 30/8/11 by blakep82]
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TimC
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 12:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I sometimes think you need to pick your battles and I fear that this one is a complete non-starter.
We are in a time of austerity... strike one.
The environmentalists would have a heart attack at the thought of the most damaging polluters getting a free-reign... strike two.
I would keep our heads below the parapet and save our voice for when they seriously think about OUTLAWING vehicles that don't meet a strict
emissions test (it's coming!).
Amen, Brother.
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mark chandler
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 12:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
"reintroduce" the rolling historic tax exemption
It never existed, just exempt before some point in 1973 so a period in time, nothing rolling about it!
If you can prove manufacture before the date you can still get exempt even if your car is a couple of months over by registration.
it did. it used to be any car over 25 years old. tony blair did away with it in 1998 and set the year as 1973. if he hadn't done that, then any
car over 25 years old NOW would be tax exempt.
anyway, it would encourage people to recycle old cars to keep their 'classics' on the road, instead of using loads of energy and carbon
emissions (if you believe in all that) to make new rubbish cars
[Edited on 30/8/11 by blakep82]
It may have been tabled that initially but...............
Vehicles constructed before 1 January 1973 are eligible for a free vehicle licence under "historic vehicle" legislation. This is due to
the age of the vehicle and a presumption of limited mileage. Initially this was a rolling exemption applied to any vehicles over 25 years old, however
the cutoff date was frozen in 1997. The change to "pre-1973" was unpopular in the classic motoring press, and a number of classic car
clubs are campaigning for a change back to the previous system.[7] In 2006 there were 307,407 vehicles in this category:[8]
My maths says 1973 - 1998 is 25 years so the rules were amended before it was possible for any cars to roll over, if the rule had not been changed
then roll over would only have happened in 1998. It never happened!!!
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Humbug
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 02:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
"reintroduce" the rolling historic tax exemption
It never existed, just exempt before some point in 1973 so a period in time, nothing rolling about it!
If you can prove manufacture before the date you can still get exempt even if your car is a couple of months over by registration.
it did. it used to be any car over 25 years old. tony blair did away with it in 1998 and set the year as 1973. if he hadn't done that, then any
car over 25 years old NOW would be tax exempt.
anyway, it would encourage people to recycle old cars to keep their 'classics' on the road, instead of using loads of energy and carbon
emissions (if you believe in all that) to make new rubbish cars
[Edited on 30/8/11 by blakep82]
It may have been tabled that initially but...............
Vehicles constructed before 1 January 1973 are eligible for a free vehicle licence under "historic vehicle" legislation. This is due to
the age of the vehicle and a presumption of limited mileage. Initially this was a rolling exemption applied to any vehicles over 25 years old, however
the cutoff date was frozen in 1997. The change to "pre-1973" was unpopular in the classic motoring press, and a number of classic car
clubs are campaigning for a change back to the previous system.[7] In 2006 there were 307,407 vehicles in this category:[8]
My maths says 1973 - 1998 is 25 years so the rules were amended before it was possible for any cars to roll over, if the rule had not been changed
then roll over would only have happened in 1998. It never happened!!!
My understanding as well, i.e. it never was "rolling" as implemented.
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rf900rush
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 03:59 PM |
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The Idea was to allow historic cars too be kept and used occasionally at little cost, NOT for us poor too keep our old bangers going on the cheap.
I think it was under estimated how many had old cars were out there.
I had a 1975 Ranger Rover just 2 years too go, then they stopped it in 1973.
Not bitter and twisted at all.
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flak monkey
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 04:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
We are in a time of austerity... strike one.
The environmentalists would have a heart attack at the thought of the most damaging polluters getting a free-reign... strike two.
1. Only because the government want you to believe we are. Our GDP to borrowing rate is lower now than it has been for most of the last 100 years.
2. Who gives a cr@p? Its more environmentally sound to run your 30 year old car than buy a new one. The hippies should know that they all drive
Campers dont they?
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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scootz
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 05:44 PM |
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Not saying that I agree David... it's just what they'll come straight back at us with!
It's Evolution Baby!
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flak monkey
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 05:46 PM |
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Yeah I know Scott, I am just being a bit of an arse
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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scootz
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 05:54 PM |
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It's Evolution Baby!
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morcus
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| posted on 30/8/11 at 05:58 PM |
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I think your wasting your time and I think it's also a bad idea if it's not part of a reform of the entire road tax system.
The problem was it was intended for show cars and very low useage cars but by the late 90's was being used by a large number of people just to
get around paying tax for everyday cars.
I'm also with the group who are saying it's best not to rock the boat, the old system of tax works out alot cheaper if your driving a 20
year old car, drawing attention to something in an attempt to get tax rates changed only ever ends with someone spotting that there could be more
money to made through increasing taxes.
Personally I think the Driver should be Taxed and not the car, and that having multiple cars should give you reduced tax per car as you can't
drive more than one at a time and it's the most enviromentallay friendly solution if you have to occasionally carry lots of passengers or stuff.
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