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jacko

posted on 19/10/11 at 06:21 PM Reply With Quote
Antifreeze mix

Hi All
Now it's getting colder and the frost and snow is on its way I think it's time to check the strength of the antifreeze So what would you Gent' suggest the ratio should be ?

Jacko

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Daddylonglegs

posted on 19/10/11 at 06:27 PM Reply With Quote
50:50





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stevegough

posted on 19/10/11 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
If its anything like the last 2 years.......200% antifreeze.





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sorens2

posted on 19/10/11 at 06:51 PM Reply With Quote
Antifreeze is activated by water so 50:50 is the best.
Just checked mine.
-45 deg.

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Ninehigh

posted on 19/10/11 at 07:08 PM Reply With Quote
So you couldn't have just pure antifreeze in the wine, er, I mean rad?

I thought it had to be a mix because antifreeze was rather corrosive to radiators...

I've got that episode of the simpsons stuck in my head now where he gets sent to france.

"Antifreeze dans le vin?"






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flibble

posted on 19/10/11 at 07:08 PM Reply With Quote
^^ He's right ya' know!!

Didn't realise that was how it worked either, so had to go look it up

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sorens2

posted on 19/10/11 at 07:14 PM Reply With Quote
Thats Ethylene.
There are other types but generally its 50:50

And antifreeze is also added because of its anti corrosion additives.
Pure water is poison to your rad and engine.

Soren S2

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perksy

posted on 19/10/11 at 07:17 PM Reply With Quote
I'd go 50 : 50
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T66

posted on 19/10/11 at 07:25 PM Reply With Quote
My Freelander runs a clever mix in its 6litres -


3 litres of anti freeze , and the oily residue from the time the oil cooler let the engine oil blow out the header tank.



It will never freeze - header tank looks like a beach on the gulf of mexico






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britishtrident

posted on 19/10/11 at 07:33 PM Reply With Quote
The import thing is use the correct type of antifreeze generally pink/orange is OAT 5 year+ longlife coolant , and blue/green is old fashioned ethylene glycol 2year life antifreeze. They shouldn't be mixed because the corrosion inhibitors are incompatible.

These aren't the only variations for instance Asian manufacturers used a Red ethelene glycol coolant, and you wil also HOAT coolant.
Some coolants particularly some HOAT coolants claim they can be used mixed with either type however if you want extended coolant life you must flush the old fashioned antifreeze out the system completely.

Also when buying particularly if buying from a supermarket take care to check if you are buying pre-mixed coolant or raw antifreeze concentrate.

Remember also that antifreeze will increase coolant leakage, so carefully check foe leaks.


[Edited on 19/10/11 by britishtrident]

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britishtrident

posted on 19/10/11 at 07:46 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sorens2
Thats Ethylene.
There are other types but generally its 50:50

And antifreeze is also added because of its anti corrosion additives.
Pure water is poison to your rad and engine.

Soren S2


That is the only because of the corosion inhibitor that are added to antifreeze, the inhibitors degrade with time, 2 years for conventional antifreeze 5 to 10 years for longlife OAT coolants.

Going back a few decades most antifreezes were much more corrosive than tap water because they often contained methanol at anywhere from 25% to 90% and the corrosion inhibitors then in use only had short life and the coolant had to be replaced with water during the summer months.

[Edited on 19/10/11 by britishtrident]





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T66

posted on 19/10/11 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by sorens2
Thats Ethylene.
There are other types but generally its 50:50

And antifreeze is also added because of its anti corrosion additives.
Pure water is poison to your rad and engine.

Soren S2


That is the only because of the corosion inhibitor that are added to antifreeze, the inhibitors degrade with time, 2 years for conventional antifreeze 5 to 10 years for longlife OAT coolants.

Going back a few decades most antifreezes were much more corrosive than tap water because they often contained methanol at anywhere from 25% to 90% and the corrosion inhibitors then in use only had short life and the coolant had to be replaced with water during the summer months.

[Edited on 19/10/11 by britishtrident]





I refer you to my earlier post - engine oil is a great corrosion inhibitor when mixed with anti feeeze.






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Ninehigh

posted on 19/10/11 at 10:31 PM Reply With Quote
You know according to the book mine stays for the life of the engine and never needs replacing...






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morcus

posted on 19/10/11 at 10:52 PM Reply With Quote
Isn't that a con though so you'll kill your car and by a new one like keeping the same transmission fluid for life?

Quick question, mine doesn't need doing but for future reference and for anyone else who doesn't know, how do you drain the system?





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jossey

posted on 20/10/11 at 08:19 AM Reply With Quote
50:50 defo.





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britishtrident

posted on 20/10/11 at 08:27 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by T66



I refer you to my earlier post - engine oil is a great corrosion inhibitor when mixed with anti feeeze.


Oil films on the internal surfaces of the engine and radiator has bad effect on heat transfer





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britishtrident

posted on 20/10/11 at 08:30 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
You know according to the book mine stays for the life of the engine and never needs replacing...


I think they work on the theory that top ups and partial coolant changes keep the concentration of corrosion inhibitors high enough.





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