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scootz

posted on 5/2/13 at 01:51 PM Reply With Quote
Physically Smallest Diff

I'm fannying about with a V-twin engine just now and would like to couple the drive-flange directly to a differential.

My space is restricted, so I'm looking for a diff that's particularly short in length.

Does anyone have any suggestions, or can offer any length dimensions of certain units?

Ta muchly!







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mcerd1

posted on 5/2/13 at 02:18 PM Reply With Quote
I'm sure there are smaller ones, but you welcome to borrow/measure up one of my sierra diffs (7" )

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nick205

posted on 5/2/13 at 02:45 PM Reply With Quote
Quad bike diff perhaps, no idea of cost/strength/ratios etc, but they must be pretty compact.

Failing that what about a Honda CRV or something similar.






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40inches

posted on 5/2/13 at 02:57 PM Reply With Quote
Front diff from a Sierra 4x4?






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MK9R

posted on 5/2/13 at 03:41 PM Reply With Quote
The free lander is shorter than a Sierra





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adithorp

posted on 5/2/13 at 04:01 PM Reply With Quote
I had a look into connecting engine direct to diff a while ago. The problem is the two have to be perfectly aligned. Any mis-alignment or flex between the two can result in failure of one or both.





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bashracing

posted on 5/2/13 at 04:56 PM Reply With Quote
1.6 mx5 6'' diff is fairly short
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me!

posted on 5/2/13 at 05:01 PM Reply With Quote
The Fiat Panda 4x4 uses a pretty small rear diff- but good luck finding one!

Maybe some of the other very small 4x4's would be some use, Subaru Justy, Diahatsu Charade etc?

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scootz

posted on 5/2/13 at 05:07 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers guys. Will look into some of the suggestions.





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scootz

posted on 5/2/13 at 05:08 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
I had a look into connecting engine direct to diff a while ago. The problem is the two have to be perfectly aligned. Any mis-alignment or flex between the two can result in failure of one or both.


Maybe put a single UJ between them?





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bashracing

posted on 5/2/13 at 05:18 PM Reply With Quote
or try these lot for a small rubber doughnut coupler
http://www.fptgroup.com/distfinder/dist_results_uk.asp

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scootz

posted on 5/2/13 at 05:29 PM Reply With Quote
Ooh... the Honda quad diffs are very neat, but I guess they wouldn't like 80ft/lbs, 10k rpm limit and 600kg vehicle weight!








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posted on 5/2/13 at 05:29 PM Reply With Quote
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or try these lot for a small rubber doughnut coupler
http://www.fptgroup.com/distfinder/dist_results_uk.asp


Cheers... will look into it.





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matt_gsxr

posted on 5/2/13 at 06:20 PM Reply With Quote
What about one of these beauties?
http://www.transworks.biz/minidiff.html

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big_wasa

posted on 5/2/13 at 06:44 PM Reply With Quote
the mondeo/jag 4x4 maybeworth a look.



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bashracing

posted on 5/2/13 at 06:56 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
What about one of these beauties?
http://www.transworks.biz/minidiff.html

hoooooooowwwwww muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccchhhhhhhhhh???????????????

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JC

posted on 5/2/13 at 06:56 PM Reply With Quote
Might be a hens teeth suggestion, but Suzuki Cappucino? It's gotta be small!

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Suzuki Cappuccino Rear Diff Differential 660cc 1994 Warranty | eBay

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scootz

posted on 5/2/13 at 07:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bashracing
quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
What about one of these beauties?
http://www.transworks.biz/minidiff.html

hoooooooowwwwww muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccchhhhhhhhhh???????????????


£1200???

That's pretty cheap considering it's your diff, has a reverse and also the brake calipers / discs.

An reverse diff from Elite is almost twice the price!





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scootz

posted on 5/2/13 at 07:06 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by JC
Might be a hens teeth suggestion, but Suzuki Cappucino? It's gotta be small!


Found one!

Suzuki Cappuccino Rear Diff Differential 660cc 1994 Warranty | eBay





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scootz

posted on 5/2/13 at 07:08 PM Reply With Quote
Ah... just spied the brake kit is an extra $650.





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scootz

posted on 5/2/13 at 07:31 PM Reply With Quote
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the mondeo/jag 4x4 maybeworth a look.







Yup... that's quite squat. I wonder if the input shaft could be shortened a bit?





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posted on 5/2/13 at 08:19 PM Reply With Quote
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minitici

posted on 5/2/13 at 08:43 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I'm fannying about with a V-twin engine just now and would like to couple the drive-flange directly to a differential.

My space is restricted, so I'm looking for a diff that's particularly short in length.

Does anyone have any suggestions, or can offer any length dimensions of certain units?

Ta muchly!



Scott, Which end of the vehicle are you fitting the differential?

Is it for the front of a reverse trike?

Or are you trying to drive a single rear wheel of a reverse trike?

As others have said a Freelander rear differential is fairly compact and has a light alloy case.

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scootz

posted on 5/2/13 at 09:14 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Doug,

It's for a Smart Roadster with an Aprilia V-twin mounted transversely.

PS - I've been looking at some of the bigger ATV's (400+kg's) and it seems that plenty of them have LSD's and a fair bit of torque. The likes of this Can-Am diff has Visco-Lok...

2013 Outlander 1000 XMR Front Differential Diff Assembly Canam Can Am 705401077 | eBay





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minitici

posted on 6/2/13 at 11:43 AM Reply With Quote
Scott,

You could always fit a sprocket to the input flange of a differential and link to the engine via a short chain.

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