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Author: Subject: 3.0 v6 duratec tuning or up grading
CNHSS1

posted on 20/8/13 at 01:56 PM Reply With Quote
im guessing youre a Nobber then Andy?

impressive figures for so little hardware changed on the engines, very cool

EDIT

oops, spotted youd mentioned the car before--should've read the post

[Edited on 20/8/13 by CNHSS1]





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andygtt

posted on 20/8/13 at 04:13 PM Reply With Quote
I'm not an expert on the jag ones, they are vvt and I know where you can get brand new complete engine for 1200 plus vat if that's a route you want.... But regarding cams, mapping etc you would be on your own as we all use the st220 engine and it makes silly power and revs to death so little point upgrading to the jag.
We also run ecu variable boost which the mbe also has, so your power curve is easily tailored to your application.

As my engine is traverse the skyline gearbox won't fit, I use a modified st220 one that I bought for 250 from eBay and had a quite and oil cooling added along with few other minor mods.





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alfablack

posted on 20/8/13 at 05:48 PM Reply With Quote
Does anyone know what weight the jag ajv6 engine is
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oli192

posted on 17/9/13 at 03:30 PM Reply With Quote
I have an AJ30 in in my Stylus and I love it!


Sorry I do not know what it weighs but the answer is not a lot. I was really impressed at how light it was also the Getrag box is pretty light as well.

I am really interested in this method of increasing the capacity to 3.5 using 2.5 parts, can anyone confirm which bits are necessary. 2.5 crankshaft but which con rods?

[Edited on 17/9/13 by oli192]

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alfablack

posted on 17/9/13 at 03:45 PM Reply With Quote
not sure I thought the jaguar used the mondeo 2.5 crank if the 3.0 one is different then that where it comes from. I would think andygt could possibly have the answer.

OLI192 what gearbox have you used in the sylva

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mark chandler

posted on 17/9/13 at 05:41 PM Reply With Quote
I have a new emerald K5 and MAP sensor that I may sell, purchased last year for a project that never happened.

If you are interested u2u me.

Regards Mark

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oli192

posted on 17/9/13 at 06:27 PM Reply With Quote
I used the S-type gearbox. It is shorter than the Type-9 that came out but it is a little wider so it is VERY tight against the frame now.

With only 7 bhp more than standard and almost 900kg less to resist it the gearbox is not straining. The real compromise is that I am still using the Jag dual mass flywheel until I can find an alternative solution.

I am using a K6 Emerald so that is an option that does work.

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Bent Wrench

posted on 14/1/14 at 02:37 AM Reply With Quote
Aluminum flywheels are on Ebay all the time

Fidanza # 186251

Same flywheel used on the Noble

I will be using a MegaSquirt MS2 on mine.

[Edited on 14/1/14 by Bent Wrench]

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magpies

posted on 19/8/18 at 05:29 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bent Wrench
Aluminum flywheels are on Ebay all the time

Fidanza # 186251

Same flywheel used on the Noble

I will be using a MegaSquirt MS2 on mine.

[Edited on 14/1/14 by Bent Wrench]


Hi - thread resurrection

What clutch do you use with the Fidanza? and Getrag 221 (S Type manual 5 speed)

I'm looking at ecu options on this standard engine with only inlet KnN and exhaust - no cats mods.

What Throttle body are you using with cable (Modeo ST220?) or I can convert mine to fly by wire as I have a complete Jag car at the mo

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big_wasa

posted on 19/8/18 at 05:53 PM Reply With Quote
I donít know of any of the shelf jag s type single mass flywheels. Those that fit the the x type or Mondeo have a differant ring gear patern to the s type.

The only of the shelf combo is the s type dual masses setup.

There is a guy that has machined a single mass Mondeo flywheel to take the jag ring gear.

Mine is a little more complicated as itís an rx8 gearbox so I canít even use the jag flywheel as the clutch wonít work. Leaving me with the above as an only option, or .... I could make a bracket for the Mondeo starter but it mounts to the gearbox and also needs to go into the transmission tunnel.

Iíve worked back the St220 ecu so that should run it nicely for the princely sum of £25. But it wonít switch the Jags vvt.



[Edited on 19/8/18 by big_wasa]

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alfablack

posted on 19/8/18 at 10:52 PM Reply With Quote
TTV do a lightened flywheel for a 71/4 clutch for the jag
They may even do a standard bolt pattern or they will do whatever you wish.
Ecu canems is a great option





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big_wasa

posted on 20/8/18 at 05:17 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks for that.
Last time I looked it was only the x type / Mondeo and I bought one of them as I was going to mid mount it.
I bet that's a £1200 package and it still won't work with the rx8 box with out a new plate.

I must stop buying ttv flywheels for projects and not using them.

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alfablack

posted on 20/8/18 at 06:45 AM Reply With Quote
Glad to hear I am not the only one
Flywheel was around £250
I destroyed an automatic gearbox chopped the bellhousing of machined it down and and welded two ends of a bellhousing together so I could fit a T5 tvr tuscan box





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RWD Focus

posted on 21/8/18 at 05:49 AM Reply With Quote
Hi Big Wasa, so you have the pin outs etc to get the st220 ecu running in a kit car for example?
Thanks





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Schrodinger

posted on 21/8/18 at 07:20 AM Reply With Quote
Look in Fuel injection EFI

https://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/47/viewthread.php?tid=190440

[Edited on 21/8/18 by Schrodinger]





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big_wasa

posted on 21/8/18 at 07:56 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RWD Focus
Hi Big Wasa, so you have the pin outs etc to get the st220 ecu running in a kit car for example?
Thanks


Yep, just need to do some testing before I post them up.

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=212606

[Edited on 21/8/18 by big_wasa]

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magpies

posted on 13/3/19 at 07:39 PM Reply With Quote
Hi
can you show / tell mewhat youhave done regarding the oil filter. I'm looking to fit a remote filter and oilcooler but they seem to need either 3/4bsp or M20 blockconnection but the Jag is M22.

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Oddified

posted on 13/3/19 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
I machined up an adaptor sleeve/tube, half is threaded M22 for in the engine and the other half is 3/4 unf (common thread for Mocal take offs and filters), the take off plate just screws on as normal then. I can post a picture tomorrow if needed, but it's fairly simple really.

Ian

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CosKev3

posted on 14/3/19 at 09:18 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by magpies
Hi
can you show / tell mewhat youhave done regarding the oil filter. I'm looking to fit a remote filter and oilcooler but they seem to need either 3/4bsp or M20 blockconnection but the Jag is M22.


I've cut the original S type filter extension/housing down and welded AN10 fittings onto the housing where the exposed holes exit

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40inches

posted on 14/3/19 at 10:47 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by CosKev3
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Originally posted by magpies
Hi
can you show / tell mewhat youhave done regarding the oil filter. I'm looking to fit a remote filter and oilcooler but they seem to need either 3/4bsp or M20 blockconnection but the Jag is M22.


I've cut the original S type filter extension/housing down and welded AN10 fittings onto the housing where the exposed holes exit


My welding skills aren't up to that. I tapped the hole and used fittings
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big_wasa

posted on 14/3/19 at 11:32 AM Reply With Quote
I've been wondering how the aj30 differs to the Duratec 30 ?
It's got a big filter on a big and rusty modine oil warmer.

So the thread is M22 ?

Unlike the st170 / Rs the sleeve is one piece not two so I can't just bin the modine and leave the filter even if there was room for engine mounts which I doubt. I can't just add two hydraulic fittings either as the block is machined for a filter and the casting is very thin.

Something else to ponder

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andygtt

posted on 14/3/19 at 11:44 AM Reply With Quote
Duratec 30 has a water to oil cooler with a filter that's inline with the block exit (so would be were the AJ30 engine mount is).

Im running a dry sump system on my AJ30.





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40inches

posted on 14/3/19 at 02:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andygtt
Duratec 30 has a water to oil cooler with a filter that's inline with the block exit (so would be were the AJ30 engine mount is).

Im running a dry sump system on my AJ30.


Yep! The AJ30 uses the Duratec filter fixing to fit the engine mount

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magpies

posted on 14/3/19 at 11:48 PM Reply With Quote
Hopefully I have just purchased the correct item........ I'll let you know when I fit it

Mocal TOP1G M22 Remote Oil Filter Take Off Plate - Dual 1/2 BSP Fittings

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andygtt

posted on 15/3/19 at 09:59 AM Reply With Quote
Shame, I have a duratec 30 take off plate going spare now lol





Andy

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