Not Anumber
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| posted on 13/8/13 at 01:27 PM |
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early Mondeo V6 ?
A pal may be breaking his low mileage V6 2.5litre mark 1 Mondeo and Im wondering how feasible it would be to use it's engine in a 7 .
I dont know a lot about the V6s in these, am i right in thinking this is the mazda derived Duratec v6 that will mate up with the MX5 gearbox ?
Is there anything I ought to be aware of before taking this route.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 13/8/13 at 03:36 PM |
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I don't think the Mazda box will easily mate up with the Duratec V6. The 2.5 V6 used in e.g. the Ford Probe (KL-ZE) is the one to go for,
it's a well proven conversion.
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 13/8/13 at 04:54 PM |
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werent the Mondeo Mk1 V6 and Probe engines basically the same though ?
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clairetoo
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| posted on 13/8/13 at 06:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Not Anumber
werent the Mondeo Mk1 V6 and Probe engines basically the same though ?
In a word - no .
The Mondeo used the Ford Duratech V6 - a lot bigger and heavier than the KL V6 used in the Probe , which whilst being a Ford / Mazda joint project ,
is very much a Mazda engine .
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 13/8/13 at 09:18 PM |
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Theres a house couple miles away with about 6 Ford Probes in the front garden 
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stevebubs
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| posted on 13/8/13 at 10:11 PM |
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I think a manual Jaguar S-Type box should fit...
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 13/8/13 at 10:15 PM |
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That sounds more hopeful.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 14/8/13 at 05:43 AM |
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Yeh but you need the sump aswell
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 14/8/13 at 09:51 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
I think a manual Jaguar S-Type box should fit...
I have seen this documented with pictures somewhere on the web, but it wasn't quite the simple bolt on job you might hope as the Jaguar engine
had many small differences. Given the relatively low price of the Jag V6 engines these days, and the fact they make a healthy amount of extra power
over the Ford Duratec using the entire Jag engine and box would be worthwhile.
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coozer
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| posted on 14/8/13 at 09:55 AM |
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The early V6 is a ford engine that was re-engineered a bit and became the V12 that appeared in the Aston BD*.. (cant remember which one, it was
during the ford ownership years)
I remember seeing one at the Aston Martin plant and thinking 'thats two Mondeo V6's joined together'
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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40inches
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| posted on 14/8/13 at 10:17 AM |
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Jag V6 engine and box, cheap as chips
Link
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 14/8/13 at 10:36 AM |
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Thats superb, i'd always assumed they were prohibitively expensive. It has to be the way forward
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coozer
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| posted on 14/8/13 at 10:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
Jag V6 engine and box, cheap as chips
Link
Its FWD tho! Only good for a midi.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 14/8/13 at 11:19 AM |
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Ah, sorry assumed that link would have been for an S type 3 litre lump and box as that was what had been suggested.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 14/8/13 at 11:27 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
Jag V6 engine and box, cheap as chips
Link
Its FWD tho! Only good for a midi.
is this the right engine & box ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-S-TYPE-V6-3-0-LITRE-2001-OUT-READY-FOR-COLLECTION-WITH-A-ENGINE-CRANE-/370874945501?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts
_SM&hash=item5659de8fdd
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-s-type-2001-3-0-v6-5-speed-manual-gearbox-breaking-/171020979444?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27
d1a50cf4
if so the still seam quite cheap, looks like a bit of searching should find you a 3.0 V6 with a manual box and most of the bits and bobs to make it go
for under £500 
(I guess they cost a bit more than some to rebuild though)
or it looks like you can get a whole s-type donor car for £600-800
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stevebubs
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| posted on 14/8/13 at 12:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
The early V6 is a ford engine that was re-engineered a bit and became the V12 that appeared in the Aston BD*.. (cant remember which one, it was
during the ford ownership years)
I remember seeing one at the Aston Martin plant and thinking 'thats two Mondeo V6's joined together'
Would probably be the DB7, I think...
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40inches
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| posted on 14/8/13 at 12:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
Jag V6 engine and box, cheap as chips
Link
Its FWD tho! Only good for a midi.
Would the engine fit a RWD Jag box, or Ford RWD box? If so still cheap and 200bhp 
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big_wasa
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| posted on 15/8/13 at 07:05 PM |
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By the time you have the bits from the jag you need you may as well just get the jag. Full and tatty s type can be had for £500.
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major
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| posted on 20/8/13 at 04:41 PM |
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Did some work on the duratec v6 from the mondeo and connected to the Jag S type getrag 221 5 spd.
Eventually I abandoned the project and went for the duratec 2.3 cosworth.
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 20/8/13 at 05:43 PM |
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what made you change your mind against the Mondeo 2.5 ?
Is the Duratec 2.3 Cosworth based on the same 4 cylinder block as the Duratec 1.8 and 2.0 ?
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major
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| posted on 21/8/13 at 12:48 AM |
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I just stumbled upon a new 2.3L which was complete, the 2.5L was to much work i suppose.
I wanted double side pipes, once i abandoned that idea, the choice was easy.
And yes i believe it is the same 4 cylinder block as the 1.8 or 2.0.
the inlet manifold (upper and lower) of a st200 can be used to upgrade the power a bit and
I used megasquirt as a management system (using the standard ford coil). Never got got it
working though.
In order to mate the mondeo v6 with the 221 you also need the sump + oil pickup from the s type.
the s type sump needs to be adjusted, otherwise it will not fit an indys frame.
The bulb on the front needs to be a bit shorter.
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