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Matt21

posted on 20/12/13 at 04:56 PM Reply With Quote
Hans devices

Hi guys

I'm just wondering if anyone on here does any competing and uses a HANS device?

I'm thinking of getting one, although its not 'needed', I'd like to have one for when I start doing sprints/hill climbs and even for track days.
I was wondering what they fit like with regards to seats and harnesses in a 7 style car, I have an MK indy R with 2" luke harnesses and the standard firbreglass/carbon seats that MK sell.

I'm assuming my seats are in the 0-10degree inclination group as opposed to 10-20degree?

any help of them would be great

cheers
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AdrianH

posted on 20/12/13 at 05:40 PM Reply With Quote
I think you may need different seat belts for Hans devices as they tend to be 2inch straps over them and 3 or 4 inch lap etc.

There is a good guide for fitting seat belts which deals with normal harness as well as Hans, worth reading as it gives angles of straps etc.

http://english.schroth.com/download/SCHROTH_Racing-Hans-Tuning-2012.pdf

and

http://english.schroth.com/download/Racing_Installation_EA_8_2.pdf

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jeffw

posted on 20/12/13 at 05:55 PM Reply With Quote
You don't need special belts, I have the Hans Adjustable with non-Hans Schroth belts and they are fine.

You will almost certainly need 20 deg in a kit, I suggest you try before you buy. Go up to the Autosport show in January and try them on....I think Demon Tweeks will let you return them if you have the wrong angle one.



I chose the adjustable as I needed 25 deg and I might use it in other cars.


I had mine fitted to me and the car by MSAR while at the Crystal Palace Sprint.

[Edited on 20/12/13 by jeffw]

[Edited on 20/12/13 by jeffw]






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MK9R

posted on 20/12/13 at 07:35 PM Reply With Quote
Once you wear it once you dont notice it, unless you dont put it on and the you feel naked! You dont need special belts I ran with normal wide width ones until they went out of date and them I bought Hans specific ones.





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Duncan36

posted on 20/12/13 at 08:13 PM Reply With Quote
I wouldn't race without one now. It feels a bit weird at first but you soon get used to it





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RK

posted on 21/12/13 at 05:50 PM Reply With Quote
I have a Necksgen, which is not only adjustable, lighter, but cheaper, than any HANS. I love it. Got mine from a guy I race with, here:

http://www.mortimer-racing.com/ (in Canada)

http://www.bigfootracewear.co.uk/NecksGen.html

[Edited on 21/12/13 by RK]

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Matt21

posted on 21/12/13 at 07:01 PM Reply With Quote
Does that attach to you're lid the same as the Hans ones or do you need to fit different anchor points+
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daniel mason

posted on 21/12/13 at 07:48 PM Reply With Quote
looks like different anchoring points!
im after a hans device too as well as a decent helmet for sprinting so if you find any deals let me know. i want used items if possible due to cost.






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Duncan36

posted on 21/12/13 at 09:53 PM Reply With Quote
Why would you go cheap or used on a lid? It's the biggest piece of safety equipment you will buy, followed by your suit and Hans. 10 Dollar lid for a 10 dollar head I think they used to say.





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daniel mason

posted on 21/12/13 at 10:03 PM Reply With Quote
dont want a cheap lid! i want a better quality/safer/more expensive one and i can get more for my money used!






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Duncan36

posted on 21/12/13 at 10:07 PM Reply With Quote
Yes you can, but you won't know the history of it, it's its been dropped or suffered any stresses. You can't always tell by looking if a lid has been dropped. Buying used is really one of the most basic no no's in buying a lid.





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jeffw

posted on 21/12/13 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RK
I have a Necksgen, which is not only adjustable, lighter, but cheaper, than any HANS. I love it. Got mine from a guy I race with, here:

http://www.mortimer-racing.com/ (in Canada)

http://www.bigfootracewear.co.uk/NecksGen.html

[Edited on 21/12/13 by RK]


The necksgen is not, yet, FIA approved as far as I'm aware so if you are required to use head restraint in your series then it has to be HANS currently.

[Edited on 21/12/13 by jeffw]






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jeffw

posted on 21/12/13 at 10:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
dont want a cheap lid! i want a better quality/safer/more expensive one and i can get more for my money used!


A 2nd hand helmet might well be fine....but that 'might' could cost you your life or serious injury. Is it worth it for a few hundred £?






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daniel mason

posted on 21/12/13 at 10:21 PM Reply With Quote
so could driving a car with little or no side impact protection,poor torsional rigidity, but we nearly all do at excessive speeds!






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Duncan36

posted on 21/12/13 at 10:39 PM Reply With Quote
It's your head and your decision Daniel, if that argument makes you feel better about your decision then that's fair enough. Personally I like to minimise the dangers as much as possible. An Arai saved my life once and that made me appreciate just how much a good lid was really worth and although I've always raced on a tight budget, I've never gone cheap where safety equipment was concerned.





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daniel mason

posted on 21/12/13 at 10:44 PM Reply With Quote
coincidentally im currently looking at an arai!






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Duncan36

posted on 21/12/13 at 10:51 PM Reply With Quote
If you can try a few different makes on as the fit is different. Bell lids didn't fit me right but Arai were a perfect fit





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Dopdog

posted on 21/12/13 at 10:53 PM Reply With Quote
This is always a good talking point, I use a necksgen as well and there has been this topic on another forum. Look at this link http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/
It is a bit of a shock to think you have the best helmet and really it is not.

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daniel mason

posted on 21/12/13 at 10:58 PM Reply With Quote
i had to sell my bell helmet as it suffered from severe 'lifting' at speed.






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Dopdog

posted on 21/12/13 at 11:01 PM Reply With Quote
As said you need to make sure it fits you and each to his own, my bell fits a treat
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Duncan36

posted on 21/12/13 at 11:41 PM Reply With Quote
That site only lists bike lids as far as I can see?

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jeffw

posted on 22/12/13 at 07:16 AM Reply With Quote
There is a GP5X listed which was a non-race version of the GP5 motorsport helmet, so same shell

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/arai-gp5x

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Duncan36

posted on 22/12/13 at 08:33 AM Reply With Quote
I thought the X was the bike race version with a wider aperture than the car version. Good to see it's got 5 stars though





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jeffw

posted on 22/12/13 at 10:12 AM Reply With Quote
Same shell but as you say the Bike version. Don't appear to be any GP6 listed like mine.






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RK

posted on 22/12/13 at 02:49 PM Reply With Quote
FYI

http://www.necksgen.com/necksgenfaq.html

The post holes are in the same spot as HANS, but use their own anchors, which come with the system. It is a quick release, with a little ribbon, you pull to get it off. It takes 5 minutes to install the anchors on a predrilled helmet.

[Edited on 22/12/13 by RK]

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