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clairetoo

posted on 22/4/14 at 05:39 PM Reply With Quote
Lead poisoning ?

A bit of history first - I have been suffering migraines for a number of years , and despite the NHS's best efforts , no cause has been found . These have been getting steadily more frequent over the last couple of years , and are currently running about 5 a week - not a severe as they used to be , but enough to leave me bedridden far too often .
Today I was reading something on-line about how they recon the reduction in lead in petrol (and in the environment as a whole) has lead to a fall in crime rates (weird , but that not the whole thing....)
They also listed common effects of lead poisoning - one of which was headaches in adults .

That was my `light bulb' moment..........I only ever get these headaches at home - never on holiday , never while staying away from home , and then it hit me.......my 1937 semi has lead pipework coming into the house (the main water supply)
I have been drinking a lot of (tap) water trying to stay hydrated to stave off the headaches , and it hasnt worked........could it all be down to low-level lead poisoning , building up over the 17 years I've lived here ?

I've decided to switch to bottled water as a temporary measure , untill I can get something done about the lead pipe - but I dont know where I stand on getting it replaced as far as the stop cock in the street ?





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posted on 22/4/14 at 05:56 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
A bit of history first - I have been suffering migraines for a number of years , and despite the NHS's best efforts , no cause has been found . These have been getting steadily more frequent over the last couple of years , and are currently running about 5 a week - not a severe as they used to be , but enough to leave me bedridden far too often .
Today I was reading something on-line about how they recon the reduction in lead in petrol (and in the environment as a whole) has lead to a fall in crime rates (weird , but that not the whole thing....)
They also listed common effects of lead poisoning - one of which was headaches in adults .

That was my `light bulb' moment..........I only ever get these headaches at home - never on holiday , never while staying away from home , and then it hit me.......my 1937 semi has lead pipework coming into the house (the main water supply)
I have been drinking a lot of (tap) water trying to stay hydrated to stave off the headaches , and it hasnt worked........could it all be down to low-level lead poisoning , building up over the 17 years I've lived here ?

I've decided to switch to bottled water as a temporary measure , untill I can get something done about the lead pipe - but I dont know where I stand on getting it replaced as far as the stop cock in the street ?


Best of luck with it - assume you're severn trent, in which case they should replace FOC - linky

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r1_pete

posted on 22/4/14 at 06:00 PM Reply With Quote
You could well be on to something Claire.

Migraine is connected to nervous system disorders..

One of the effects of lead poisoning is to cause nervous disorders.

Definitely worth the bottled water experiment, and talking it through with your GP or better still getting a referral to a specialist....

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clairetoo

posted on 22/4/14 at 06:02 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for that link - its amazing the things they dont tell you...........I had no idea !

Just had a call from severn trent - they are coming tonight to do a water quality test , to check for bacteriological contaminants - and lead !





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wylliezx9r

posted on 22/4/14 at 06:11 PM Reply With Quote
My wife had similar symptoms to what you describe for about the last 10 years. Went to the doctors etc etc but nothing was found. I read a book called grain brain which describes the problems gluten can have on the body including migraines amongst lots of other things. I told her to give it up gluten and see what happens, Within a couple of days the migraines stopped and have never come back.

[Edited on 22/4/14 by wylliezx9r]





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twybrow

posted on 22/4/14 at 06:12 PM Reply With Quote
I also have lead from the stop cock to the house. I was advised that it is only new lead that poses any risk after this many years, the lead will have formed oxides on the inside of the pipe, therefore preventing any less contamination. There are treatments that can be used that you inject down the lead pipe and it lines the lead with a nontoxic layer. Good luck getting some answers - migraines are no fun at all.
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clairetoo

posted on 22/4/14 at 06:47 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wylliezx9r
My wife had similar symptoms to what you describe for about the last 10 years. Went to the doctors etc etc but nothing was found. I read a book called grain brain which describes the problems gluten can have on the body including migraines amongst lots of other things. I told her to give it up gluten and see what happens, Within a couple of days the migraines stopped and have never come back.

[Edited on 22/4/14 by wylliezx9r]

I dont think its any kind of food allergy - I spent a few months several years ago recording absolutely everything I ate or drank , and came to the conclusion that there was no pattern - either it was everything , or nothing !
I have tried avoiding just about everything - from caffeine to dairy products , red meat to alcohol , and no change........even prescription migraine preventatives have no effect .

Fingers crossed that this time I have stumbled upon the answer





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SteveWalker

posted on 22/4/14 at 06:56 PM Reply With Quote
It's possible, but unlikely. If you are in a hard water area, the scale coats the inside of the pipe and prevents any lead absorption. If you are in a soft water area, then this does not happen, but water companies use dosing systems to add chemicals to prevent the lead absorption instead - I spent some time designing some of the control panels for these dosing systems over a decade ago.

[Edited on 22/4/14 by SteveWalker]

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David Jenkins

posted on 22/4/14 at 06:57 PM Reply With Quote
I believe that you can ask your water supplier to analyse your water, if you ask them nicely - might be worth a go?





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wylliezx9r

posted on 22/4/14 at 06:58 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
quote:
Originally posted by wylliezx9r
My wife had similar symptoms to what you describe for about the last 10 years. Went to the doctors etc etc but nothing was found. I read a book called grain brain which describes the problems gluten can have on the body including migraines amongst lots of other things. I told her to give it up gluten and see what happens, Within a couple of days the migraines stopped and have never come back.

[Edited on 22/4/14 by wylliezx9r]

I dont think its any kind of food allergy - I spent a few months several years ago recording absolutely everything I ate or drank , and came to the conclusion that there was no pattern - either it was everything , or nothing !
I have tried avoiding just about everything - from caffeine to dairy products , red meat to alcohol , and no change........even prescription migraine preventatives have no effect .

Fingers crossed that this time I have stumbled upon the answer


Have you eliminated gluten though ? My wife was amazed she never thought it could of been that.

[Edited on 22/4/14 by wylliezx9r]





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clairetoo

posted on 22/4/14 at 07:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I believe that you can ask your water supplier to analyse your water, if you ask them nicely - might be worth a go?

Thay are coming round tonight to do just that ....................





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clairetoo

posted on 22/4/14 at 07:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wylliezx9r

Have you eliminated gluten though ? My wife was amazed she never thought it could of been that.

[Edited on 22/4/14 by wylliezx9r]

Just one question.......what is gluten ? How would I know if I've eaten it on a specific day ?





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wylliezx9r

posted on 22/4/14 at 07:17 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
quote:
Originally posted by wylliezx9r

Have you eliminated gluten though ? My wife was amazed she never thought it could of been that.

[Edited on 22/4/14 by wylliezx9r]

Just one question.......what is gluten ? How would I know if I've eaten it on a specific day ?



Unfortunately its in everybody's favourite foods, bread, pasta, cereals etc. If you do a quick Google search it'll give u all the types. Also do a Google search containing the words gluten and migraines, I think you'll be surprised.





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kingster996

posted on 22/4/14 at 07:19 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
Just one question.......what is gluten ? How would I know if I've eaten it on a specific day ?

Bread mainly. Gluten is found in Wheat, so bread, cereals, flour etc. (daughter-in-law is Gluten intolerant)






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onenastyviper

posted on 22/4/14 at 07:22 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
quote:
Originally posted by wylliezx9r

Have you eliminated gluten though ? My wife was amazed she never thought it could of been that.

[Edited on 22/4/14 by wylliezx9r]

Just one question.......what is gluten ? How would I know if I've eaten it on a specific day ?


It is a protein, typically found in grains such as wheat, barley etc.
The Coeliacs society https://www.coeliac.org.uk/home/ should have more info





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clairetoo

posted on 22/4/14 at 07:27 PM Reply With Quote
So.....theres more than a fair chance I've eaten gluten while on holiday in Europe.....and yet I've never had a migraine while on holiday , only at home ?

I had started to think it was something in my house , but just couldnt put my finger on what .





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jacko

posted on 22/4/14 at 07:47 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
So.....theres more than a fair chance I've eaten gluten while on holiday in Europe.....and yet I've never had a migraine while on holiday , only at home ?

I had started to think it was something in my house , but just couldnt put my finger on what .


Claire i have the answer stay on holiday 365 days

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StevieB

posted on 22/4/14 at 07:57 PM Reply With Quote
I've had similar issues, but mainly at work and when I wake on a morning. I've been suffering stress, so that's a clear cause but there are a lot of things that start to contribute.

I've been seeing a chiropractor and things have gotten a lot better after getting my spine adjusted (thus relieving the pressure on my nervous system) and doing a lot of stretching to even out my posture, especially when sat at my desk. I also find spending a lot of time on the iPad creates tension at the back of my neck and causes some jaw clenching.

You do right to look at things around the home if that's the pattern causing migraines, and getting the pipes checked is a no brainer if they'll sort it for free. But look at other things that you make a habit of at home - posture, computer habits, flickering TV etc etc.






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garyo

posted on 22/4/14 at 08:01 PM Reply With Quote
Have you thought about weighing yourself in? Leads worth a fortune!
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Jed

posted on 22/4/14 at 08:01 PM Reply With Quote
This reminds me of a lead poisoning case I heard many moons ago where it was traced to the lead based glaze on some jugs/mugs that had the persons daily breakfast fruit juice in it. Apparently the acid in the fruit juice was bringing the lead out.
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clairetoo

posted on 22/4/14 at 08:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by garyo
Have you thought about weighing yourself in? Leads worth a fortune!

Well , I have been getting heavier..........





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David Jenkins

posted on 22/4/14 at 08:09 PM Reply With Quote
This is an extreme result of celiac problems that popped up on Reddit just today:

Celiac disease & brain

It's rather melodramatic to think that this is your problem! However, it is an indication of how celiac disease can affect the brain. I'd stick to trying to find a simpler cause though - lifestyle, something in your home or work environment, or similar.

For one of my son's friends, the cure for migraines was to stop eating chocolate & cheese.

[Edited on 22/4/14 by David Jenkins]





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gavin174

posted on 22/4/14 at 08:10 PM Reply With Quote
anything to do with welding...
do you use an air fed mask?

I am assuming you dont do any welding on holiday!!





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dave r

posted on 22/4/14 at 08:12 PM Reply With Quote
certainly round this way, the water company doses phos acid into the water, to stop lead coming out of the pipe.....

most companys are slowly replacing the lead out in the district too

as said before, the old lead pipes are scaled up so wont be leaching out into the water





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plentywahalla

posted on 22/4/14 at 10:14 PM Reply With Quote
Are you aware of the link between low energy lighting and migraines?

possible 'light bulb' moment!

[Edited on 22/4/14 by plentywahalla]





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