coozer
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 posted on 28/11/15 at 07:21 PM |
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New boiler, which company?
I'm finally going towards a new boiler... Getting sick of fixing our good old Vokera. I am going to give it one more chance to see if we can
get the winter out of it. I've hung on and hung on as the house is for sale but without a sale in sight I may have to take the plunge.
So, Q? Where from?
Local installer?
Gas board? Current system was installed by the gas board in 2000.
Help-link?
We are not entitled to any grants or help with the cost, just low paid part time workers....
Am I right in thinking it will be around £2k for a new install on the current pipework?
What have you done??
Ta,
Steve xx
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Wadders
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| posted on 28/11/15 at 07:26 PM |
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Try to find a local installer that comes by recommendation.
BG are a rip off and use local subbys anyway.
If it's a combi, go with the longest warranty, 10 years is not uncommon now.
Make sure they fit a magnetic filter.
£2k max is a reasonable expectation for a decent long warranty combi swap. Price will vary depending on location etc.
Sorry, just re read your post and saw the House for sale bit. I would get something like an Ideal I-mini fitted. Only 2 year warranty but same inside
as it's 7 year warranty brother. You should get one in for £1200 or so.
[Edited on 28/11/15 by Wadders]
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mark chandler
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| posted on 28/11/15 at 08:13 PM |
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Phone around and find someone who will fit and sign off for you for £200, then supply the boiler from here
https://www.mrcentralheating.co.uk/?gclid=CP2f4P31s8kCFWT3wgodazcK7w
I have fitted my whole system a couple of times now, you have to get a corgi man to connect and commission these days as it gets registered. You will
need to hit the phone hard as most want to charge you retail for the boiler when all you want is 1/2 days labour.
Regards Mark
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Wadders
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| posted on 28/11/15 at 10:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
Phone around and find someone who will fit and sign off for you for £200, then supply the boiler from here
Hope the OP's got a thick skin........maybe start with plumbers listed in the Bradford phone book :-)
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hizzi
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| posted on 28/11/15 at 10:36 PM |
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i take it the vokera you have will be a combi, if so you may get a pleasant surprise at britsh gas price, combi to combi swaps are very well priced
and if you have maintenace theres a further £400 off plus other bits. if you are changing boiler type then different story and a lot depends on
electrics condensate drains flue route etc.
i work in tech support for bg , personally i prefer worcester bosch but the current most reliable combi on the market is ideal logic combi that comes
with seven year warranty if serviced yearly
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coozer
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| posted on 28/11/15 at 11:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
Phone around and find someone who will fit and sign off for you for £200, then supply the boiler from here
https://www.mrcentralheating.co.uk/?gclid=CP2f4P31s8kCFWT3wgodazcK7w
I have fitted my whole system a couple of times now, you have to get a corgi man to connect and commission these days as it gets registered. You will
need to hit the phone hard as most want to charge you retail for the boiler when all you want is 1/2 days labour.
Regards Mark
Yes, I've done that in the past. When I bought my first house in the 80s I installed all the pipe works, radiates and boiler. Got my mate, a
corgi to install the gas pipe.
Is it the same now?? If I can get it working till the summer I might just do that again..
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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adam1985
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| posted on 28/11/15 at 11:45 PM |
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I would steer clear of the big companies if you can, best thing would be a recommendation of a local installer and have a chat with him.
Most installers have a prefered boiler what they normally fit and are familiar with the installation and maintenance of these boilers.
Personally i would go with either a vaillant or worcester ive never been a fan of ideal or anything from the baxi group, I would get a magnetic filter
fitted too and make sure the benchmark is completed otherwise the warrenty could be voided.
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mark chandler
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| posted on 28/11/15 at 11:54 PM |
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The change now is the corgi man registers the new boiler on a database, this means they warranty the work hence they may want to hang it on the wall.
In both cases they were happy for me to hang and run the pipe work as they are not signing off the wet side.
I phoned maybe 3 or 4 plumbers before I got one who was happy to validate and sign off, they did a gas drop test, checked the earths etc so a few
hundred for 1/2 hours work.
in both cases they popped around and told me what they needed to see/work on before commissioning the boiler a couple of days later, it's like
dealing with a Masonic lodge! some just say not interested unless they supply then hang up so arrange it first if going this route.
Cheers Mark
[Edited on 29/11/15 by mark chandler]
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samjc
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| posted on 29/11/15 at 07:18 AM |
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If you supply a boiler £500 for half decent 3year warrenty job (mine was £800 with 7 years warrenty) and get a local registerd and well reviewed
installer to fit it and sign it off. Should pay more than £400 as mine was done as a favour but he said hed usualy charge £300 or less depending how
buisy he is.
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smart51
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| posted on 29/11/15 at 08:58 AM |
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we had ours done by a friend of a friend who was going back to fitting boilers after a spell of working for a big firm. He charged us £850 for the
boiler and £850 to fit it. BG wanted about £3000 IIRC. He did it by himself and it took less than two whole days, so it wasn't a mates rates
job yest was nearly half the price of BG.
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neilp1
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| posted on 29/11/15 at 03:30 PM |
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I had a baxi but had loads of problems with it. I had a Worcester Bosch fitted last year with 10 year warranty. Enviro heat fitted it based in
Gateshead I think
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 29/11/15 at 06:04 PM |
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The issue with the worcester greenstars is the position of the PRV.
On any combi if the PRV lets go because it over pressures there is a fair chance it won't seal again and leak, losing pressure etc.
On most boilers it is a quick fix, 15 mins it took me to do one on an old worcester. However on teh greenstars it is right at the back of teh boiler,
meaning a partial boiler strip to access it. That cost me over £200.
And that wont be covered by any warranty either.
On that note I gave up on the warranty on our vaillant. In 24 years our 3 home boilers (all fitted by me, well, an engineer did final bits) none have
ever gone wrong. And none have been serviced. At £70 a pop I have saved plenty of money, and if I do get a probelm most are sub £100 to fix, worts
case is a few hundred. That really sums up the ideal boiler offer, same boiler 2 prices, you are paying for a warranty.
I would fit a vaillant every time.
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BenB
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| posted on 29/11/15 at 06:51 PM |
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I also did the DIY route. Paid Mr Gas Safe to do the final connection, register it etc but the hanging, wiring etc I did myself. The gas pipes I cut
and fluxed and left them slightly separated so he could inspect, slot together and solder. His soldering skills were okay- though I personally think
mine look better!! Still saved a packet. In London you think you'ld have loads of heating engineers, lots of competition and therefore a cheap
price. Not so!!!
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