steve m
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 06:22 AM |
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MOT question
I have the MOT booked this week on the Tintop, yet it expires on the 11th Sept
question is, if it fails, is the sept 11 expiry still valid or void
steve
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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joneh
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 06:29 AM |
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Grey area. You are allowed to drive it away but you still have to be legally road worthy.
I guess it depends on what you fail on.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 06:41 AM |
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You still have a valid MOT but your car may not be roadworthy in the eyes of the law on specific isssues and to quote the VT30 "you should have
the vehicle repaired without delay" there is however another form that can be issued if the vehicle is considered so dangerous it should not
be driven on the road at all.
[Edited on 22/8/16 by britishtrident]
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steve m
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 07:16 AM |
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Thanks, I thought so
steve
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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Dick
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 08:49 AM |
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If you take a car for mot and it fails then it now has no valid mot, even if your old mot expires after this date , No gray area its failed and the
system shows mot espied and vehicle failed on the date you had the test.
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CC Cyclone
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 09:43 AM |
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I was told by a tester, beyond doubt, that once it fails it fails and has no MOT irrespective of whether the old one has run out or not.
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CC Cyclone
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 09:43 AM |
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[Edited on 22/8/16 by CC Cyclone]
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Slimy38
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 09:45 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dick
If you take a car for mot and it fails then it now has no valid mot, even if your old mot expires after this date , No gray area its failed and the
system shows mot espied and vehicle failed on the date you had the test.
This is how I interpret it as well. It's to do with it now being computerised. Before you could just hang on to your old ticket and produce it
as required (even if it was slightly dodgy). Now the system will always show the last result, even if the previous result is still 'in
range'.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 09:50 AM |
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Despite the above it is indeed a grey area.
The Government's own website says you can 'drive the car away' if its fails but you still have a in date Mot, but fall short of
saying you can continue to use it till the old one expires.
https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test
Its also worth noting at one point the website was updated to state 'You must not drive the vehicle on the road if it fails the test, even if
the MOT hasn’t run out.' and this was removed, so I suspect this ran against the true letter of the law.
As mentioned, and stated in the link, regardless of if you have a current mot the 'vehicle still needs to meet the minimum standards of
roadworthiness at all times'.
Ignore what any MoT tester tells you, 90% are garage monkeys with little knowledge of the law and in rare cases limited knowledge of the Mot
standards!
[Edited on 22-8-16 by loggyboy]
Mistral Motorsport
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Dick
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 10:16 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
Ignore what any MoT tester tells you, 90% are garage monkeys with little knowledge of the law and in rare cases limited knowledge of the Mot
standards!
[Edited on 22-8-16 by loggyboy]
Ill pass on your comments to my Sons and Daughter all of them are mot tester's all of them are time served motor engineers some even have
degrees in other fields to none. They all work in the family business that is one of only a few that have been awarded trading standards approval
along side many other business accreditations. They even build and restore cars to .
Strange none of them are monkeys.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 10:24 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dick
Ill pass on your comments to my Sons and Daughter all of them are mot tester's all of them are time served motor engineers some even have
degrees in other fields to none. They all work in the family business that is one of only a few that have been awarded trading standards approval
along side many other business accreditations. They even build and restore cars to .
Strange none of them are monkeys.
They will be in the 10%
Mistral Motorsport
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obfripper
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 12:10 PM |
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Just to clarify, the mot is a test of vehicle condition at time of test, and is valid until it's expiry date, irrespective of further mot
tests.
Using the vehicle in an unroadworthy (ie failed mot) condition is an construction and use offence and has no effect on the validity of the mot, you
would not be prosecuted for having no mot, however the unroadworthy items would attract a fine and endorsements if picked up upon.
The only things that can invalidate an mot are the vehicle being written off cat c or d, or the dvsa issuing a prohibition order that requires a full
mot before further use.
Dave
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dave_424
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 12:44 PM |
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Previous MOT is still valid, they don't give you a FAIL certificate but rather a Refusal of a pass certificate. If it fails on something that is
detrimental to the vehicles safety then I am sure you would agree that it wouldn't be wise to continue driving it, but the previous MOT still
stands
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 09:39 PM |
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I've been told by several testers including a local VOSA station that the original is still valid unless the "dangerous vehicle"
declaration is served. The government website alludes to this also. I'll stick with that.
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 22/8/16 at 09:41 PM |
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I've been told by several testers including a local VOSA station that the original is still valid unless the "dangerous vehicle"
declaration is served. The government website alludes to this also. I'll stick with that.
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steve m
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| posted on 25/8/16 at 03:42 PM |
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Thanks for the response's, however the Mondeo passed its MOT so not an issue
But I hope it helps "to answer the question" for any one else
steve
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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B33fy
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| posted on 25/8/16 at 06:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
Despite the above it is indeed a grey area.
The Government's own website says you can 'drive the car away' if its fails but you still have a in date Mot, but fall short of
saying you can continue to use it till the old one expires.
https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test
Its also worth noting at one point the website was updated to state 'You must not drive the vehicle on the road if it fails the test, even if
the MOT hasn’t run out.' and this was removed, so I suspect this ran against the true letter of the law.
As mentioned, and stated in the link, regardless of if you have a current mot the 'vehicle still needs to meet the minimum standards of
roadworthiness at all times'.
Ignore what any MoT tester tells you, 90% are garage monkeys with little knowledge of the law and in rare cases limited knowledge of the Mot
standards!
[Edited on 22-8-16 by loggyboy]
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