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r1_pete

posted on 17/7/19 at 07:55 PM Reply With Quote
Ford EEC-IV Module testing

Does anyone know if its possible to get an eec-iv module tested??
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big_wasa

posted on 17/7/19 at 08:25 PM Reply With Quote
V4 is going to be 22 years old plus so-finding some one with the equipment may be tough.

I find itís the wiring at this age that suffers before the ecu. What fault have you got ?

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r1_pete

posted on 18/7/19 at 06:47 AM Reply With Quote
I donít know whether it is faulty or not, it came with a 24v v6 engine and other parts.

I was going to sell it on, but if its faulty its going to cost me in refund and hassle, seems a shame to bin it as it has the plug and some loom.

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big_wasa

posted on 18/7/19 at 11:45 AM Reply With Quote
Unless it's for an ultra rare model then testing is lilley to cost more than the ecu is worth, just my opinion based on what people have told me in the past that they had paid.

What engine is it for ?

Unless I am in a rush or it's a seller's market I usually wouldn't pay much more than £25, I did pay more for one from a focus Rs but there where only around 2250 sold in the uk.

I agree selling on Ebay is getting hard work with people expecting new items for old money and argos style service. But just stick it on as untested.

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r1_pete

posted on 18/7/19 at 11:55 AM Reply With Quote
Its for a 24v cosworth v6, Iíll be using MS, so probably best binning it...
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big_wasa

posted on 18/7/19 at 12:37 PM Reply With Quote
Wo there, donít be binning it.

Is it a boa or a bob ?

Iíve been asked if I would do one of these. I normally decline as there just to labour intensive but as Iíve never done a granny cosi I said I may have a look.

Just done a first start on the St220 3.0, I love these standard ecuís. You plug them in and turn the key and go.


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r1_pete

posted on 18/7/19 at 07:07 PM Reply With Quote
Its a BOA.

I think BOB has an eec-v, and as I understand needs the transducer.

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big_wasa

posted on 18/7/19 at 07:21 PM Reply With Quote
If Bob is an eecv then yes it would be pats and would need the matching rfid chip. But on the plus side they gain obd2. I think the bob is harder due to the gearbox control rather than pats.
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r1_pete

posted on 18/7/19 at 08:51 PM Reply With Quote
Right...

The bloke I got it from harvested all the parts to put it in a Transit, then decided against it...

Iím planning on putting the engine in my Scimitar in the near future, if the pikeys can keep their thieving hands off the big chunks of metal...

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r1_pete

posted on 24/7/19 at 09:21 PM Reply With Quote
Well Warren, you convinced me to have a crack at using eec-iv...

Bought an EDIS6, got the ecu/plug and engine loom, will start working through what I need and donít need to hook up...

Looks like all the auto gearbox and emission controls can go....

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big_wasa

posted on 25/7/19 at 01:36 PM Reply With Quote

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big_wasa

posted on 25/7/19 at 01:38 PM Reply With Quote
in out for the 2.9 24v cosworth BOA.

Pin Function Goes To Note : Earth = - ,Live = + ,Feed = Unknown Feed of either + or -
1 Live Battery & 3A Fuse black/blue
2 Feed BOO to Circuit with bulb, goes between the brake switch and the lightbulb black/red
3 Feed Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) yellow/brown
4 Feed E.D.I.S Module, Pin 2 and TACHO green
5
6
7 Feed Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (ECT) green/brown
8 Feed Kick Down Switch black/green
9 Feed data in connector
10 Feed Air Con 12 volt sense wire clutch black/yellow
11
12
13
14 5 volt ref Mass Air Flow Sensor brown/yellow
15 signal Mass Air Flow Sensor brown
16 Feed E.D.I.S Module, Pin 4 blue/black
17 Feed Self-test Connector blue/green
18 ???? E.D.I.S Module, Pin 4 blue/black
19
20 Earth Ground Near Module brown
21 Idle Speed Control Valve (ISC) brown/yellow
22 Feed Fuel Pump Relay blue/red
23
24
25 5 volt ref Air Charge Temperature Sensor (ACT) brown/yellow
26 Feed Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) & Exhaust Pressure Transucer (ECT) (EPT) brown/black
27 Feed Exhaust Pressure Transducer (ECT) brown/green
28 Feed data in connector
29 Feed hego sensor right right blue/wit
30 Feed Seems to goto a "Blocking Diode Sperr Diode" which then links into the AutoM TransM Start Inh Switch brown/wit goes to - battrey attery
31 Feed Canister Purge Solenoid (EVAP) brown/wit
32
33 Feed Electronic Vacuum Regulator (EVR) brown/red
34 Feed fuel computer brown/yellow
35
36 Feed E.D.I.S Module, Pin 3 blue/red
37 Feed Power Slice, including Power Relay (injectors), Fuel Pump Relay, Both HEGO's, Injector's black
38
39 Feed hego sensor left left blue/black
40 Earth Mass Air Flow Sensor & Battery brown
41
42
43
44
45
46 signal earth Air Charge Temperature Sensor (ACT) & Engine Cooland Temperature Sensor (ECT) EPT and tps brown
47 Feed Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) brown/green
48 Feed Self-test Connector blue/green
49 Earth Engine Ground brown
50
51
52 Feed 3rd/4th Gear Shift Solenoid brown/blue
53 Feed Torque Converter Lockup Solenoid brown/red
54 Feed Air Con blue/yellow
55
56 Feed E.D.I.S Module, Pin 1 blue/yellow
57 Feed Power Slice, including Power Relay (injectors), Fuel Pump Relay, Both HEGO's, Injector's black
58 Feed Injectors 1,2 and 3 brown
59 Feed Injectors 4,5 and 6 brown
60 Earth Battery brown

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big_wasa

posted on 25/7/19 at 01:41 PM Reply With Quote
Neither of the above pin out lists are my work and they have been plucked from the web.
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scimjim

posted on 25/7/19 at 02:43 PM Reply With Quote

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r1_pete

posted on 25/7/19 at 08:26 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Warren & Jim, they will be a great help, it seems the plug on my EEC is wired for a different version, some key connections missing, e.g left and right o2 sensors, and some pins wired which shouldnít be...

Some fun to be had.....

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big_wasa

posted on 25/7/19 at 08:52 PM Reply With Quote
It means the plug wasnít from that engine.

As long as you have enough pins itís not a problem, they are very easy to move.

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big_wasa

posted on 25/7/19 at 08:54 PM Reply With Quote
Have you checked the ecu is the correct code for the boa ?
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r1_pete

posted on 25/7/19 at 11:00 PM Reply With Quote
Yes the ecu is a 91 - 93 cosworth 24v, I checked the number on apt electronics website, this is the info I got..

Vehicle Scorpio Cosworth 24V 2.9 litre
Year 91-93
System Ford EEC IV EMA-100
OE Ref No. 91GB-12A650-AA
1GAB
VM Ref No. 91GB-12A650-AB
1GAB
ATP Part No.XEF1GBAB


1GAB
1GAB

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big_wasa

posted on 26/7/19 at 08:35 AM Reply With Quote
Yep looks good, let me know if you need a hand.

Warren

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r1_pete

posted on 26/7/19 at 08:52 AM Reply With Quote
Cheers Warren, original plan was MegaSquirt, but as I have an EEC and not going for massive power, I'm trying to save a few quid.
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