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Benzine

posted on 29/12/21 at 11:13 PM Reply With Quote
Question for the northerners

I'm a big fred dibnah fan. He often uses the word 'proper' in a way that doesn't mean much to me. See 4:24 is of this vid.



Also he'll say things like "that was the death of the cotton industry proper"

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MikeR

posted on 29/12/21 at 11:26 PM Reply With Quote
I completely understand the usage of the word (studied in Bolton, lived a couple of villages away) and an struggling to explain it.

He's meaning the overhang is really 5 foot. It's not like the section goes in a foot then overhangs 5 (making 4 in reality). It's a really 5 foot or maybe a little over 5 foot.

If I've done something well / to a high standard I'd say I've done a proper job.

If I'd dug a deep hole, say 6 foot deep I might say it's a proper deep hole.

Feels like a terrible explanation. It makes sense to me.

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MikeR

posted on 29/12/21 at 11:30 PM Reply With Quote
Regarding the cotton industry, lots of things will have led to it's demise but this was the key thing. After this their was no coming back.
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ReMan

posted on 29/12/21 at 11:40 PM Reply With Quote
Yes big fan too Ben

Proper in this sense, means "actual or unadorned" so the ledge sticks out 5ft from the main chimney stack if it carried on start up
But agreed, proper also is used, (Guy Martin does it a lot) meaning "the real deal" or yes proper job=good job





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Mr Whippy

posted on 30/12/21 at 06:03 AM Reply With Quote
I can't watch him without feeling he's about to fall off. Totally crazy sod.
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MikeR

posted on 30/12/21 at 08:03 AM Reply With Quote
Gotta laugh. Two people living 125 miles away from Bolton and less than a mile from each other explaining a local dialect
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ReMan

posted on 30/12/21 at 10:07 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by MikeR
Gotta laugh. Two people living 125 miles away from Bolton and less than a mile from each other explaining a local dialect




This is true!
I'll claim some northern roots though, born in Manchester, Stafforrdshire heritage





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SJ

posted on 30/12/21 at 11:00 AM Reply With Quote
Where I grew up in South Yorkshire the 'wall proper' means the vertical surface of the wall. It's not implying 5 foot is a long way, rather using the main vertical surface as a reference point.
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Benzine

posted on 30/12/21 at 05:49 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks everyone
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Mike Wood

posted on 5/1/22 at 10:39 PM Reply With Quote
Is ‘proper job’ also in use in Somerset and elsewhere in SW England?

Anyone got any alternative phrases for unobtainable components beyond ‘like rocking horse/unicorn droppings’ (or similar) or ‘made from unobtainium’?

Cheers
Mike

[Edited on 5/1/22 by Mike Wood]

[Edited on 6/1/22 by Mike Wood]

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