rayward
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| posted on 16/11/05 at 09:11 PM |
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Help with wall fixings??
does anyone know what type of fixings i need to hang wall cupboards on a strawboard wall(made by stramit or karphos) tried contacting the company who
made them but they dont deal with the stuff anymore he just said "its like a helicoil" HELP!!!
cheers
Ray
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Deckman001
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| posted on 16/11/05 at 09:13 PM |
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If it's a helicoil type fixing rq'd, try plater board fixings they look similar 
Jason
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Avoneer
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| posted on 16/11/05 at 09:28 PM |
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If the walls hollow behind, the grey rawl plugs for plaster board should be fine.
You trying to earn garage time???
Pat...
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However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 16/11/05 at 09:30 PM |
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If the wall has studs with the fibrous sheets on it, and you want a decent fixing for the cabinets, consider cutting out a slot of the material and
housing in a section of timber. (i.e. housed into the studs as well). That's how I mount wall cabinets / central heating boilers etc...
Something like 3"x2"
I have never ever trusted anything that says it will carry a load directly onto a sheet. Sorry - I just don't believe it, especially considering
the load a cabinet carries.
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JoelP
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| posted on 16/11/05 at 09:35 PM |
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ive used plasterboard/hollow wall fittings in many kitchen and nothings ever fallen down!  Ray, does it have plasterboard over the straw? Ive only
worked with straw walls once, nearly a year ago now, cant remember what the surface is, except that it falls apart when you try to take tiles off!
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 16/11/05 at 09:41 PM |
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Is this what they mean?
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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rayward
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| posted on 16/11/05 at 10:15 PM |
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thanks for the replies.
yes Pat "trying" to earn garage time, doesn;t seem to be working though
the straw doesn't have plasterboard over it just a cardboard type covering and layer of skim plaster.
had lloked at that type of fastener, but not sure it will do the job as you said, the cupboards weigh in at 12kg and 18kg before the wife rams them
full of stuff.
looks like i'll have to drill right through and put a recessed spreader plate on the other side of the wall, more bloody painting to do.
Ray
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JoelP
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| posted on 16/11/05 at 10:35 PM |
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the wall should still have timber in it somewhere. Id locate this, (small drill bit is one way, watching out for wires) and screw a piece of timber to
the surface, above the line of the units. Then secure wall brackets, hang the units and use rightangle brackets to further secure them to the beam you
added. If you tile, this will further support them
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 16/11/05 at 10:43 PM |
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those turbo fix pictured above should do the job , they are used to hold radiators up and alsorts , once you get a few in should be ok
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 16/11/05 at 10:47 PM |
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Just do it as zilspeed says you know it makes sense. If you can put your fist through a sheet of plasterboard or similar how do you expect a piddly
little rawplug or similar to hold. If the fixed item falls off and makes a hole/breaks swmbo precious items then garage time will either be
a) banned totally while you make amends
or
b) plentifull in order to stay out of her way
Right said Zebidee I'm off to bed
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Chippy
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| posted on 17/11/05 at 12:30 AM |
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Stramit (Straw board)
This is a real pain to get a fixing in, they used to make a corkscrew type fixing which was just about good enough to hang a picture rail on, (and
they sometimes fell down). The ONLY way to get a secure fixing, (from experience), is to batten the reverse side of the wall, and fix right the way
through, not good if the lounge is the other side. Best of luck.
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JonBowden
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| posted on 17/11/05 at 08:56 AM |
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First of all find the wooden uprights (try bashing the wall with your hand to find the dull noise where the wooden uprights are). Make use of these
for some of the fastenings. Then use plasterboard fastenings for the rest. I have mounted many big heavy rediators that way - none have come loose
yet.
Oh, one tip. when you screw in the plasterboard screws, put a little PVA glue in the thread, this will reinforce the hole through the wallboard making
it less likely to work loose over time
Jon
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