Alez
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 08:55 AM |
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The very definition of "sideways" (very nice pic)
Not sure if he managed to save it, though.. probably not.
[Edited on 14/12/05 by Alez]
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 09:33 AM |
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I quite like this!!
Sideways, pulling a wheelie out of the corner and smoking a rear tyre at full chat..............he's trying!!!!
 
[Edited on 14/12/05 by NS Dev]
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 09:41 AM |
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heh heh just found this one!!!!!
He's actually at about 85 degrees to the track, but yep, it was like that every lap and fully in control!!!
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Guinness
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 09:54 AM |
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Those drifting boys, crazy!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 10:16 AM |
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You just cannot beat autograss racing for the combination of speed and sideways-ness!!!!!!
The cars in the pics above have around 500hp and weigh 500kg approximately, hence the tyre smoke on a mud field track!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 10:20 AM |
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I'm not quite so spectacular but I am working on it (and I've only got 200hp!!, will try harder in 2006!!)...............
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 10:42 AM |
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Is there a fairly "standard" design for grasser chassis? Do they all have same wheelbase etc?
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Lotusmark2
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 10:53 AM |
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I would love to get more involved in Auto grass but things seem to have gone very quiet in the north west.
Even considered converting my formula ford to an auto grasser (with a lot of input?????) dont know what catagory it would run in or if a 110bhp bike
engine special would be competetive??
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 11:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
Is there a fairly "standard" design for grasser chassis? Do they all have same wheelbase etc?
Doh, I've turned this into a bit of a thread hijack!!
There is no standard design, but the rule book is written in a style which means that cars "tend" toward a std design...........having
said that, you can run a front engine rwd car in my class, but nobody does!
Most of the designs are similar now because that design works well.
There are rules on wheelbase etc but these are only ridiculous maximums which no car would ever reach anyway...and safety related things, like there
must be 9" of chassis forward of the control pedals in their fully depressed positions, and 3" gap between the seated driver's
helmet and the inside of the roof, and 3" between the sides of the drivers hips and the inside of the chassis at it's narrowest point in
the cockpit.
Rulebooks are £2 and available from the NASA website (National Autograss Sport Association)
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JonBowden
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 11:16 AM |
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what would they be like on the road?
Jon
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 12:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Lotusmark2
I would love to get more involved in Auto grass but things seem to have gone very quiet in the north west.
Even considered converting my formula ford to an auto grasser (with a lot of input?????) dont know what catagory it would run in or if a 110bhp bike
engine special would be competetive??
Nearest to you are Yorkshire dales :
Yorkshire Dales, Kiplin Hall Farm, Kiplin, on B6271 between Scorton and Northallerton
and Solway:
Solway, Silloth Airfield, Silloth-on-Solway, Cumbria.
neither that close I suppose!
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 12:29 PM |
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" what would they be like on the road"
CLEANER
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 12:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JonBowden
what would they be like on the road?
Bloody lively!!!!!!!!
My car with 200hp in under 500kgs hits 60 in around 4.5 secs........on wet mud!!
On tarmac (tried it on a small outdoor kart track and a few times for a nip up the road!) it launches with almost no wheelspin due to the squat, god
knows the 0-60 on tarmac.
A few years back one of the class 7 cars was tested on tarmac by a magazine and made a 0-60 in 2 secs or so (2.4 I think???)
As for setup and handling, not so easy! The requirements for handling on soil are quite different to tarmac, and in particular, autograss cars are set
up mainly for the start, as the race is often won at the startline. This, coupled with the need to go very fast on a very bumpy track (circa 100mph on
the straight but with up to 5-6" undulations on a poor track) means that very soft springs are run with masses of travel.
Grip on tarmac would be superb but body roll rather excessive!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 12:40 PM |
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Anyone been watching the Trophee Andros racing on Motors TV (racing on ice)? Now THAT redefines 'sideways round a corner'!!!
Very entertaining, and surprised to Alain Prost still racing - and winning.
David
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 12:47 PM |
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Who would have been driving the jps lotus in the original post picture?
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 12:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Anyone been watching the Trophee Andros racing on Motors TV (racing on ice)? Now THAT redefines 'sideways round a corner'!!!
Very entertaining, and surprised to Alain Prost still racing - and winning.
David
believe me, a packed dirt autograss track, freshly watered while you are on the startline, is EXACTLY the same as racing on ice!!! I walked out onto
the track on the second day of the meeting where the two cars were pictured further up, and slipped over on it, it was virtually a skating ring. MikeR
was there and walked on it too! It was then I realised why I struggled at the first corner when I arrived at it at over 70mph and tried to make a 180
degree turn!!!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 01:11 PM |
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........................ a bit more sideways action from the class I'm moving to for 2007!
Twin R1 engined rwd mini, and twin-turbo RX7 rotary engined rwd metro:
[Edited on 14/12/05 by NS Dev]
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derf
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 01:12 PM |
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here are some sideways videos:
http://www.brazenvideo.com/brazen_img/player.jpg
some buddies of mine on trikes:
http://www.brazenvideo.com/brazen_img/player.jpg
http://www.brazenvideo.com/brazen_img/player.jpg
aussies on trikes:
http://www.brazenvideo.com/brazen_img/player.jpg
apparently xtreme tricycling is getting pretty big!
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MikeR
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 01:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
believe me, a packed dirt autograss track, freshly watered while you are on the startline, is EXACTLY the same as racing on ice!!! I walked out onto
the track on the second day of the meeting where the two cars were pictured further up, and slipped over on it, it was virtually a skating ring. MikeR
was there and walked on it too! It was then I realised why I struggled at the first corner when I arrived at it at over 70mph and tried to make a 180
degree turn!!!
Ahem, here come the excuses .....
it was a wierd substance. Its supposed to be soil but its very compacted and then has rubber laid onto it. Its really hard to describe / explain. In
fact i can't.
Having watched NS Dev race at his local track that was a more "interesting" surface. More undulations and and during the afternoon a rut
was dug out by the cars hitting the bottom corner.
So do you go for the inside line and hit a 6" rut at what ever speed you get up to or do you bottle it and take the wider line?
Personally i watch cause i know i'm too competitive!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 04:22 PM |
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Heh heh try this for sideways fun (no, for once it's not autograss!!!!)
Sideways Slidy Click
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Jasper
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 08:05 PM |
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Am I right in saying all this autograss action is all north of Watford - we never seem to have much like this going on in the south 
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 10:28 PM |
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I think Ive seen some signs for Autograss events on the A31 between Alton and Fourmarks, can anyone confirm?
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NS Dev
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| posted on 15/12/05 at 12:19 AM |
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the nations autograss clubs and their venues:
Scunthorpe Blyton Airfield, off B1205, Nr Blyton.
Sturton & Stow Old Faldingworth Airfield, Toft-Newton, Nr Lincoln
Trent Boiling Wells Farm. South Rauceby,Sleaford,Lincs
Yorkshire Dales Kiplin Hall Farm, Kiplin, on B6271 between Scorton and Northallerton
Solway Silloth Airfield, Silloth-on-Solway, Cumbria
St Neots Riverside Farm, Wyboston, Bedfordshire. Junction of A1/A428
Cambridge Stretham Raceway, A10, Ely, Cambridgeshire
Leicester and Melton M & L Raceway, Charley Road, Shepshed, B5350 off M1 Junction 23.
Nottingham Moorfield Farm, Oxton, Southwell, Notts
Pennine Darley Moor Raceway, on A515, Ashbourne to Sudbury Road
Concord AutograssLittle Whitmans Farm, Hackmans Lane, Cold Norton, Essex
Bredon Hill Hilltop Raceway, Ashfield Road, Tirley, (off B4213) Glos.
Forest of Dean Cherry Orchard Farm, Newland, Coleford, Glos.
Gloucester and District Pound Farm, Elton, Gloucestershire
Invicta KentMartins Farm, Ivychurch, New Romney, Kent
Evesham Dodwell Farm, Evesham Road, Stratford-upon-Avon
Radford Westol Hall Farm, Radford, Nr Inkberrow, Worcs. Off A422
Down Autograss Bluestone Road, Craigavon, Co. Armagh, N. Ireland
Foyle Autograss Bleech Green, Ardmore, Londonderry
Causeway Gordnamoyagh Road, Garvagh, Co.Londonderry, N. Ireland
Abram Phone Club Contact For Venue
Leewood Castle Hill Farm, Castle Mill Lane, Ashley, Nr Altrincham, Cheshire
North Wales Broad Oak Farm, Lester Lane, Broughton, Chester
Whiterose Browns Edge Road, off Broadstone Lane, Inbirchworth, Barnsley
York A59 5 miles North of York, Nr Moor Monkton
North Shropshire Hinton Hall, Whitchurch, Shropshire
Shropshire & Telford Leasowes Farm, Crudgington, Telford, Shropshire
South Somerset Curlew Farm, Rousden, Nr Lyme Regis, Dorset
Wessex Bearley, Martock, Nr Yeovil, Somerset
West Waterford Ballysaggart, Lismore, Co. Waterford
Cork Castletownkenneigh, Enniskeane, Co. Cork
Carlow Jerusalem, Athy Road, Carlow
South Wales Castle Lloyd Farm, Red Roses, Carms
Carmarthen See South Wales
Pembroke Haven See South Wales
Swansea See South Wales
Teifi See South Wales
Bristol SouthPhone club contact for venue
Norton RadstockManor Farm, Whatley, Nr.Frome, Somerset
Penhow Phone club contact for venue
Border Counties Grove House Farm, Monkland, Nr Leominster, Herefordshire
Cwmdu The Ovals, Lyonshall, Nr Kington, Herefordshire
Hereford Grove House Farm, Monkland, Nr Leominster, Herefordshire
Ludlow Hurstley Court, Kinnersley
Severn Valley Upper Moorend Farm, Much Cowarn, Herefordshire
PAC Hayes Farm, Hodgeston Cross, Hodgeston, Nr Pembroke
Athelstan Jubille Park Showground, Little Haresfield, Glos
Stroud & District See Athelston
Yate & SodburySee Athelston
Scarborough Bartingdale Road, Hunmanby, Nr Filey
Spalding & District Hurdletree Bank, off B1168, Holbeach
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NS Dev
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| posted on 15/12/05 at 12:20 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jasper
Am I right in saying all this autograss action is all north of Watford - we never seem to have much like this going on in the south
No there's loads in the south!! see above!!!
There's also what's known as SEGTO (south east grass track organisation, or something like that, dunno much about it!)which is run
seperately to the big grasstrack body of NASA (National Autograss Sports Association) and there is now a big NASA vs SEGTO challenge each year.
Next post is a load of pics from the event. The SEGTO cars are the ones with the big wings, but are generally less powerful with tighter engine rules
(only 2 valve per cyl I think?)
[Edited on 15/12/05 by NS Dev]
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NS Dev
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| posted on 15/12/05 at 12:35 AM |
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