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romer

posted on 12/2/06 at 09:20 PM Reply With Quote
Which engine is this ??

Anyone any idea if this is a K Series or Honda engine. The car is a rover.

Cheers

ps hope the photo's attached.

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Danozeman

posted on 12/2/06 at 09:26 PM Reply With Quote
Deffo K series mate.

Honda are mounted arse about face and look completely different.





Dan

Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!

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flak monkey

posted on 12/2/06 at 10:36 PM Reply With Quote
Yep, definately K-series.





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romer

posted on 12/2/06 at 11:33 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers for that guys - much appreciated.
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locost_bryan

posted on 13/2/06 at 03:33 AM Reply With Quote
ok clever clogs, what capacity, what's it in, and what date was it manafactured?





Bryan Miller
Auckland NZ

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John Cooper - "In that rack of tubes, son"

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britishtrident

posted on 13/2/06 at 07:42 AM Reply With Quote
Build date is between 96 amd 98 K16 Mpi
Rover new shape 200/400
One thing you can't tell is the capacity as 1.4 to 1.8 engines are externally identical when seen from the top. However the plastic throttle body skews he odds toward a 1.4 or 1.6 --- if it has an alloy sump it will be a 1.6 or 1.8.

[Edited on 13/2/06 by britishtrident]

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nick205

posted on 13/2/06 at 08:57 AM Reply With Quote
knowledge is power
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britishtrident

posted on 13/2/06 at 09:01 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
knowledge is power


Real trick is telling a 71 ps 1.4 from the 104ps version -- only one difference the throttlebody butterfly only opens halfway on the poverty spec engine.

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nick205

posted on 13/2/06 at 10:05 AM Reply With Quote
easy mod for more power then?
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MikeR

posted on 13/2/06 at 12:43 PM Reply With Quote
you know i was going to do a wee take,

Rover 400, this engine, etc.......


and someone actually did it for real. Guys, we need to get out more!

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MikeRJ

posted on 13/2/06 at 02:20 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
However the plastic throttle body skews he odds toward a 1.4 or 1.6


Thought all the earlier 1.8's shared the same (horrible) plastic throttle body? My brothers '97 Elise has one.

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ch1ll1

posted on 13/2/06 at 03:13 PM Reply With Quote
k series
honda engine has gearbox on the other side !

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britishtrident

posted on 13/2/06 at 07:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
easy mod for more power then?



To get that you have also to change the throttle cable for a longer one !

An extra honest 33 bhp no other differences even the ECU part numbers are the same ;-)

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blueshift

posted on 13/2/06 at 09:53 PM Reply With Quote
kind of winds me up that manufacturers do things like that.. deliberately gimp cars. I know why they do it, for mass manufacturing economy, insurable variants etc. but it still annoys.

still, at least with drive-by-wire I'm in the right job to do something about it now if I had a mini one I'd be chuckling (well, apart from the fact that I'd be driving a mini)

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britishtrident

posted on 13/2/06 at 11:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
However the plastic throttle body skews he odds toward a 1.4 or 1.6


Thought all the earlier 1.8's shared the same (horrible) plastic throttle body? My brothers '97 Elise has one.


Plastic throttlebody worked fine on the front engined cars but problems started apearing around the time the MGF 1.8 was introduced --- problem was partially extra heat but I also suspect mal-adjustment of the throttle cable was placing excessive force on the body.
MG-Rover changed a lot of plastic throttle bodies on customers cars a service time free of charge even though no problem had been reported.

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MikeRJ

posted on 14/2/06 at 11:29 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Plastic throttlebody worked fine on the front engined cars but problems started apearing around the time the MGF 1.8 was introduced --- problem was partially extra heat but I also suspect mal-adjustment of the throttle cable was placing excessive force on the body.
MG-Rover changed a lot of plastic throttle bodies on customers cars a service time free of charge even though no problem had been reported.


What really kills them is adding aftermarket K&N style filters, the clamp distorts the body and suddenly the car idles at 2000 RPM...

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mackie

posted on 20/2/06 at 06:05 PM Reply With Quote
I thought the 70-odd BHP 1.4 was infact a single cam engine?

Wikipedia (which could easily be be wrong) state 5 variants of the 1.4:

* SOHC K8 8-valve, Carburettor, 75 hp (55 kW)
* SOHC K8 8-valve, SPI, 75 hp (55 kW)
* SOHC K8 8-valve, MPI, 84 hp (62 kW)
* DOHC K16 16-valve, SPI, 90 hp (66 kW)
* DOHC K16 16-valve, MPI, 103 hp (76 kW)

The difference being different fuelling systems rather than a crippled throttle body.

I know from blueshift that the Mini One engine is basically Cooper engine with the DBW throttle map set to not open the throttle 100% so it does happen but I never thought it to be the case on the K.

I had a 1.4 in my old rover, pretty pokey for it's size (but still quite insurable), it could keep up with blueshift's 2.0 Primera (but I think that was a bit shagged)

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