Chris_R
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 04:15 PM |
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Daily Driver Help
I've got a Rover 400 (96) with a 2ltr turbo diesel engine. It's been sat for over 12 months and doesn't want to start. The
battery's flat and when trying to jump it the starter motor just clicks. the contacts on the leads, battery and starter motor are clean and the
engine of the other vehicle is left running whilst jumping. Occasionally it sounds like it's gonna turn over, but it doesn't.
There is fuel in it.
Has anyone got any ideas?
A bit of slapstick never hurt anyone.
http://www.chris.renney.dsl.pipex.com/
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 04:25 PM |
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Get the battery charged/tested before trying anything else . May be worth putting car into top gear, take hand brake off and see if the engine turns
over when car is pushed ( Engines can sieze when unused although unlikely ) Check the earth connection on the engine as well . Could be the starter
sticking? try tapping the solonoid when the key is turned to the start position . If all else fails take the starter off and test it.
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 04:31 PM |
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If you can give it a tow, I find its best way too start a stubborns engine, its got no choice but too start if everything else is ok.
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Chris_R
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 04:38 PM |
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I'll give it a go tomorrow. Was gonna try turning the engine using a socket and ratchet, but 4th gear sounds easier.
I know it's been towed before in a effort to start it and it didn't go. May be something more sinister! 
[Edited on 18/3/06 by Chris_R]
A bit of slapstick never hurt anyone.
http://www.chris.renney.dsl.pipex.com/
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chrisg
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 04:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris_R
I've got a Rover 400 (96) with a 2ltr turbo diesel engine. It's been sat for over 12 months and doesn't want to start. The
battery's flat and when trying to jump it the starter motor just clicks. the contacts on the leads, battery and starter motor are clean and the
engine of the other vehicle is left running whilst jumping. Occasionally it sounds like it's gonna turn over, but it doesn't.
There is fuel in it.
Has anyone got any ideas?
Put some brake pipes on the Cavalier?
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 04:45 PM |
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Remove the glow plugs before you do anything, it may have one or more cylinders full of diesel/coolant - you don't want to be bending rods
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Chris_R
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 04:58 PM |
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Mark, is that a common complaint? I'd assume that the head gasket would have to have gone to fill a cylinder full off coolant?
I'm new to diesels.
Chris, I've got to get rid of the Cav because I'll have nowhere to put the Golf. The Cav only lost the toss because the Rover gets 50mpg,
but I see your argument.
A bit of slapstick never hurt anyone.
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MikeR
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 06:16 PM |
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i once flattened the battery on a 200 with the same engine.
(i mean really flattened)
It was a right pig to start, took the RAC man with his jump start battery & his van (with me revving the van) to get enough life into the rover
battery to turn the engine.
Took ages, as he tried all sorts, this was desparate last measure (9pm sunday night).
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 07:14 PM |
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Yeh i'd give the battery a good long charge, I had the same problem with a battery totally flattened this week, it took 5 mins connected to
another van with the engine running to jump it off.
A little tip I saw on ScrapHeap challenge for starting Diesels was a hair drier or paint stripper gun in the inlet pipe to warm up the air in the
mixture so it was more likey to ignite if anything was iffy with the cylinder.
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MikeR
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 07:19 PM |
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ok, we had 10 minutes charging the battery pack from his van, 10 minutes charging my car from his van, then both set up in parrallel - yeah we did
scratch heads to make sure we got it right, then carried on charging my car and ........
it turned over real slow. Cold weather didn't help. But it turned and started.
Left both engines connected to the battery with engines running for another 5 minutes, disconnected (with engines running, he was too scared to stop
my engine!) all the leads, and he followed me for the next couple of miles.
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Chris_R
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 07:48 PM |
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I had it charging for about 10 - 15 minutes from a Mitsubishi Pajero, which uses 2 regular car batteries connected in parallel. Still nothing. Gonna
try the battery from my other car tomorrow along with various other things.
A bit of slapstick never hurt anyone.
http://www.chris.renney.dsl.pipex.com/
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 08:38 PM |
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If you get it turning over but not starting then the preheat system is the first thing to check , test for power to glow plugs if you have power then
remove glow plugs and test with a small jump lead and a battery . DO NOT hold the thin end , it should get red hot in a few seconds. As for a heat
source at the inlet ,it works , my dad had a fleet of lorries in the sixties and in the winter some had to be started using a burning rag soaked in
desiel held into the inlet manifold .
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Simon
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 09:58 PM |
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Make sure you're using good quality jump leads (very thick), it's makes a big difference in how much amperage the other car gets (and
diesels need a lot of amps at best of times).
ATB
Simon
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iank
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 10:47 PM |
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Does diesel 'go off' like unleaded petrol if left in the tank for a long time?
Secondly it's been a tad chilly up here today, not sure if it's been cold enough to cause it to wax up the filter?
See Linky
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Peteff
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| posted on 18/3/06 at 11:54 PM |
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Put a decent battery on it then bleed it through with some new fuel and blow a hot air stripper down the inlet with the air filter removed. If
it's been stood that long you probably need a new fuel filter as well as you may be pulling water through.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Chris_R
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| posted on 19/3/06 at 07:27 AM |
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Funny you should mention it, but I leant on the crappy plactic filter and broke is as I was checking the lead to the starter motor. I've got a
nice shiney metal one to go back on. :-)
A bit of slapstick never hurt anyone.
http://www.chris.renney.dsl.pipex.com/
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