MartinDB
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| posted on 14/7/06 at 07:37 PM |
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R1, flooded? New plugs?
I wheeled the car outside this afternoon to start it. It's already run, about a month ago but I've re-terminated some of the wiring and
tidied it.
Today it turned over but wouldn't fire. After checking for loose connections I realised that I'd forgotten to remove the paper towels I
was using to stop muck falling into the intakes when I fitted the airbox.
Now (before I chase after possibly non-existant electrical problems and partly as it's an engine crane job to change the plugs) my question is,
has the trying to start the engine with restricted air intake flooded the cylinders, and do I need to replace the plugs?
Thanks,
Martin.
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Toady1
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| posted on 14/7/06 at 07:44 PM |
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i wouldnt have thought there would be a need to replace the plugs if theyve got flooded. have you checked that no paper towel has been sucked into the
engine on the inlet stroke tho?
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RazMan
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| posted on 14/7/06 at 07:51 PM |
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I had a similar problem when trying to start my V6 - platinum plugs got flooded while I figured out a wiring problem. New plugs were the only solution
in my case - £30 a set too 
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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DIY Si
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| posted on 14/7/06 at 08:00 PM |
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Not sure what the blade plug are like, but bird ones can be dried off nicely in the oven. About 15-20 mins at 130 should do the trick.
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MartinDB
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| posted on 14/7/06 at 08:57 PM |
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No pieces missing from the towels, so at least one thing's going right  .
I'm tempted to replace them just to eliminate them.
Martin.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 14/7/06 at 09:55 PM |
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As a team that were trying to get the engine going for hours....
New plugs were the only answer on a new start.... fortunately for me they were free. 
Only use NGK as 99% of bikers do...
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JoaoCaldeira
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| posted on 15/7/06 at 08:35 AM |
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It happened to me! Quite lot of time trying to start it when I realised that the air intake was bloked with tape!
Recharged the battery, tried a few more times and presto! she's running fine!
Joao
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kev R1
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| posted on 15/7/06 at 12:45 PM |
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take em out and dry em off on your gas hob!!! job done!!!
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MartinDB
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| posted on 15/7/06 at 03:51 PM |
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Weel, no-one locally had the plugs in stock.
It took me a while to get the last 2 out as the engine needed moving to get to them. I'm guessing these are the reason it won't start
anymore.
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I'm assuming they were marginal when I first ran the car and the flooding was the last straw.
Martin.
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bike_power
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| posted on 15/7/06 at 07:15 PM |
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They look OK but check the gap, could just be the 'photo but they look very wide which will prevent it starting.
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RazMan
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| posted on 15/7/06 at 08:49 PM |
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Flooding can disable brand new plugs ..... like mine
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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MartinDB
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| posted on 16/7/06 at 07:17 AM |
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Given the access problems, I think I'll order new plugs tomorrow. At least then if it doesn't start I know it's not the plugs and
the engine can stay put.
How dumb was I assuming a car designed to take the R1 engine would mean maintenance would be simple?
Martin.
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Peteff
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| posted on 16/7/06 at 09:58 AM |
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If you have to remove the engine to fit plugs it's going to be a ball ache, can't you cut an access panel somewhere to get at them.
Don't get the iridiums till you've had it running on cheap standard plugs and think yourself lucky they aren't like the Ducati the
bike shop had in a few weeks back, the plugs for that were £47 each.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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MartinDB
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| posted on 16/7/06 at 10:51 AM |
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I can get two out no problem, and I can't remove this
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to get access to the other 2.
The engine has run, so I know it will again .
Martin.
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Ferrino
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| posted on 16/7/06 at 03:08 PM |
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I thought the same about the gap on those plugs - on the carbed R1s the gap is supposed to be somethiing like 0.8mm?
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Peteff
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| posted on 16/7/06 at 04:03 PM |
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What kind of plug spanner are you using? The one from a bike tool kit would probably fit in there, you can use them with an open ended spanner to get
into tight spaces. It's definitely not been designed with convenience in mind.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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