zxrlocost
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 01:46 PM |
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whats going to be the next donor?
hi
as above surely all the fords are running out?
ta chris
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mike smith1
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 01:47 PM |
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IIRC this was discussed a couple of weeks ago and i think the favourite was the MX-5, plenty of BMW's around yet though just not so locost!
Mike
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3GEComponents
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 01:48 PM |
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MX5
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JackNco
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 01:50 PM |
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tiger and Westfield already have mx-5 in the works. apparently in Oz lexus and toyots are the favorite.
I Personally dont think theres enough Mazda's out there.... i guess at some point the kit car companies are gonna have to get together n start
having replica sierra parts made in bulk in china and sent over.
John
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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ch1ll1
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 01:51 PM |
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mx5 i think,
what about porsche gt3 
and make it mid engined
[Edited on 15/11/06 by ch1ll1]
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 01:57 PM |
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are they rear wheel drived then(mx5) ive never really noted
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iank
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 02:02 PM |
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I doubt there are enough MX5's in this country for all the companies to switch sucessfully, certainly not in the long term.
I'd suspect it will be a Ford (for historical reasons) FWD moved to the back in a mid format.
So Mondeo, Focus or Fiesta.
BMWs are cheap for the donors but I suspect parts are expensive (never had one).
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JackNco
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 02:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zxrlocost
are they rear wheel drived then(mx5) ive never really noted
They are indeed. plus tuning parts are everywhere for them
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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JackNco
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 02:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
I doubt there are enough MX5's in this country for all the companies to switch sucessfully, certainly not in the long term.
Its not just the quantity out there. they are still popular cars anyway. Westfield said they were paying about 1200 for each donor. as they run out
the price will rocket. especially for one in good nick.
Guess thats a good tip if you want a car you can run for a year and not see it depreciate
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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JackNco
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 02:10 PM |
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guess when it comes down to it we are just gonna see alot more mid/rear engined cars about
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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scottc
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 03:51 PM |
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Porsche 924
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akumabito
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 03:52 PM |
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Or BMW / Mercedes powered monstrosities...
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TimC
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 03:53 PM |
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I personally think the days of the Dutton are numbered - I reckon people will start breaking old kits to make new.
My tongue is only partially in my cheek by the way.
Aside from that. I think bespoke parts (uprights in particular) will become much more popular. The drivetrain is less simple to sort.
I read in Kit Car (MNR article was the only reason that I bought it) that Hyundai (I think) bought the tooling for the Cortina uprights and therefore
these can be used. Doubt there's millions around though!
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Ivan
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 05:24 PM |
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I dont know how popular Light Trucks are in the UK but here in South Africa every second vehicle is one and they generaly have independant front
suspensions and a useable live rear axle so might be worth investigating as donors.
Of course I have no idea what the front upright geometery is like but can't be much worse than the Cortina's
[Edited on 15/11/06 by Ivan]
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Rek
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 05:57 PM |
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Omega's have the right layout and cost nothing. loads in the scrapyard near me.
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donut
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 06:24 PM |
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BMW 3 series o recon
Andy
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Johnmor
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 10:16 PM |
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Mid Engine
It may be that kit manufacturers look at producing more Mid Engined Kit and use the front wheel drive set up in reverse, can produce very fine and
fast results, also opens up the number of donors to an almost unlimted amout.
This would do for me!!
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02GF74
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 10:55 AM |
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land rover  (maybe freelander but with the fwd removed?)
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ZEN
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 05:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scottc
Porsche 924
The porker has a transaxel layout.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 08:28 PM |
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I am pretty sure the BMW E36 will be the donor of choice, but without the star trek electrics and fallen over engine.
The first person to come up with a cheap adaptor plate to link the BM box to a standard ford pattern will be a wealthy man
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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JoelP
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 09:16 PM |
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i dont see donor shortage as a problem. Engines are ten a penny, and loads of previously fwd engines get used nowdays - just think xe, zetec and
duratec to name 3. Front suspension can easily be made. Racks are more of a problem, what with PAS being the norm. Maybe move onto custom racks. Then
all you need is the rear end.
So i guess the days of the single donor are running out (already gone in fact!), but theres no shortage of parts if you mix and match.
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 09:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
I am pretty sure the BMW E36 will be the donor of choice, but without the star trek electrics and fallen over engine.
The first person to come up with a cheap adaptor plate to link the BM box to a standard ford pattern will be a wealthy man
already been done !!.
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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NS Dev
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| posted on 17/11/06 at 10:19 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
i dont see donor shortage as a problem. Engines are ten a penny, and loads of previously fwd engines get used nowdays - just think xe, zetec and
duratec to name 3. Front suspension can easily be made. Racks are more of a problem, what with PAS being the norm. Maybe move onto custom racks. Then
all you need is the rear end.
So i guess the days of the single donor are running out (already gone in fact!), but theres no shortage of parts if you mix and match.
I agree, the single donor is becoming largely irrelevant.
The more popular these cars become, the less the need for single donors
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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James
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| posted on 17/11/06 at 10:55 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
i dont see donor shortage as a problem. Engines are ten a penny, and loads of previously fwd engines get used nowdays - just think xe, zetec and
duratec to name 3. Front suspension can easily be made. Racks are more of a problem, what with PAS being the norm. Maybe move onto custom racks. Then
all you need is the rear end.
So i guess the days of the single donor are running out (already gone in fact!), but theres no shortage of parts if you mix and match.
I agree, the single donor is becoming largely irrelevant.
The more popular these cars become, the less the need for single donors
I wonder if they will continue to be as popular *without* a single donor choice tho.
When I started this I knew nothing about cars...** if I'd been told I had to choose bits from all sorts of different cars the choices/decisions
would have been mind boggling! It's ok for the petrol head geniuses out there who know about lots of cars but for your no nothing newbie I
suspect it'll be too intimidating to get started.
Cheers,
James
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JackNco
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| posted on 17/11/06 at 11:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
i dont see donor shortage as a problem. Engines are ten a penny, and loads of previously fwd engines get used nowdays - just think xe, zetec and
duratec to name 3. Front suspension can easily be made. Racks are more of a problem, what with PAS being the norm. Maybe move onto custom racks. Then
all you need is the rear end.
So i guess the days of the single donor are running out (already gone in fact!), but theres no shortage of parts if you mix and match.
I agree, the single donor is becoming largely irrelevant.
The more popular these cars become, the less the need for single donors
I wonder if they will continue to be as popular *without* a single donor choice tho.
When I started this I knew nothing about cars...** if I'd been told I had to choose bits from all sorts of different cars the choices/decisions
would have been mind boggling! It's ok for the petrol head geniuses out there who know about lots of cars but for your no nothing newbie I
suspect it'll be too intimidating to get started.
Cheers,
James
** Many would say I still don't!
I think the smaller companies will start having to offer way more support. and MK will have to start answering there phone. but if your given a list
of parts to find and a list of possible cars to find them in i think it would make it easier if anything
Now with forums like this for help and ebay for parts.
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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