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Author: Subject: Mride C42 turbo BEC sportscar
Micke Fredriksson

posted on 3/1/07 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
Mride C42 turbo BEC sportscar

Hi!
My next project has now started- I´m going to rebuild my two seated MRide T42 turbo trike to a formula like sportscar.
The Engine is still the same Suzuki GSX 1000-R turbo bike engine with 300hp @ 1,1bar boost. The Mride "T"42 stands for Trike, and Mride "C"42 stands for Car.

The 3-wheeler have dubble wishbones and Pushrod suspension in the front. So it will be the same at the rear. The total weight will be around 540kgs + driver
I´ve started to make a TORSEN chaindrive differential.

Read more om my website!
www.mride.se

This is a scetch I´ve done to illustrate the Mride C42 turbo sportscar.








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Wadders

posted on 3/1/07 at 09:53 PM Reply With Quote
Sir, i salute you




i]Originally posted by Micke Fredriksson
Hi!
My next project has now started- I´m going to rebuild my two seated MRide T42 turbo trike to a formula like sportscar.
The Engine is still the same Suzuki GSX 1000-R turbo bike engine with 300hp @ 1,1bar boost. The Mride "T"42 stands for Trike, and Mride "C"42 stands for Car.

The 3-wheeler have dubble wishbones and Pushrod suspension in the front. So it will be the same at the rear. The total weight will be around 540kgs + driver
I´ve started to make a TORSEN chaindrive differential.

Read more om my website!
www.mride.se

This is a scetch I´ve done to illustrate the Mride C42 turbo sportscar.










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pathfinder

posted on 3/1/07 at 10:03 PM Reply With Quote
So why the move from 3 wheels to 4?

I was thinking of doing a self designed 3 wheeler next so would be interested to know your reasoning.

Looks like a tidy project

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Wadders

posted on 3/1/07 at 10:10 PM Reply With Quote
At a guess, with 300hp, a severe lack of traction from one wheel?




]Originally posted by pathfinder
So why the move from 3 wheels to 4?

I was thinking of doing a self designed 3 wheeler next so would be interested to know your reasoning.

Looks like a tidy project







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PAUL FISHER

posted on 3/1/07 at 10:47 PM Reply With Quote
Now thats looks like fun to me
will be keeping my eye this project.

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muzchap

posted on 3/1/07 at 11:30 PM Reply With Quote
Finally a post without arguing!

What an awesome looking machine!

The best of British/Swedish luck to you - if you know of any single women - er.. send em over

Cheers,

M





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DavidM

posted on 3/1/07 at 11:46 PM Reply With Quote
Unusual looking beast.

I love it!

David

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Winston Todge

posted on 4/1/07 at 07:54 AM Reply With Quote
Another unbelievable project Micke...

I have every belief that it'll turn out aswell as the first!

Good luck and keep us posted.

Chris.






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Winston Todge

posted on 4/1/07 at 07:59 AM Reply With Quote
How does the differential cover you have TIGd up seal against the ring gear plate and diff side?

Does this whole cover rotate with the differential when locked up?

Any fluid inside the diff?

Ta, Chris.






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RallyHarry

posted on 4/1/07 at 09:25 PM Reply With Quote
Wouldn't four wheels mean that it's a car and hence illegal to drive ? (power to weight ratio thingie they have in Sweden)
Can't be SVA'd can it ?

Cheers

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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 4/1/07 at 10:11 PM Reply With Quote
Hello everybody! Thanks for all the kind words!!

Yes! The reson why the redesign to a car, is just TOO MUCH POWER!!
The 300hp is just not doing any good under 200km/h.
The performance isn´t so bad as a 3-wheeler= 0-100km/h in 4,5sec, 0-200km/h in just under 10sec. And brakes 1,1G and corners like a locost seven. So I´m not disappointed at all- It is the most fun vehicle I have ever driven. But it´s just SO frustrating to know that I can use twise the power from 100km/h without sliding and burning rubber, if I just had more grip..
I have terrible fast friends that is awefully close to leave me behind I just can´t let that happen!!

So, more wheels= More traction,= More Acc, Faster cornering and better brakes!!
It will be better in every way!!

The Torsen diff is taken from a -92 Audi V8 who is the only audi car with Torsen in the rear diff "I think". I TIG welded together the diff "housing" in ALU. The housing will be bolted with 3 M6 screws in the side flangs. I will seal the housing with a oil resistent silicone. Yes, the whole thing is rotating the same speed as the chain sprocket.
I will fill the diff with grease as a lubricant. Hopefully that will work fine!

I forgot to mension that the topspeed will be reduced from 290+km/h to 237km/h. There will be a huge differense to launch = before the 1:st gear- 142km/h. Now it will go 115km/h in the 1:st!! NICE!!

I will even redesign the gear shifter to a mecanic paddle shifter with a Dyna-tech shiftcut. And Alot of other things too. But I have to do the rear suspenson first.


This is the TORSEN diff.












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G.Man

posted on 4/1/07 at 10:14 PM Reply With Quote
a bitchin project...

Bet it will be an awesome drive...







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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 4/1/07 at 10:17 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RallyHarry
Wouldn't four wheels mean that it's a car and hence illegal to drive ? (power to weight ratio thingie they have in Sweden)
Can't be SVA'd can it ?

Cheers


HI! Yes, that´s right. I can have 15kw/100kg as a car. But I don´t see it as a problem. I just perhaps leave my rotating scilencer at home that day.. or add alot of wheight..... It will be Road legal!

[Edited on 4/1/07 by Micke Fredriksson]





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tigris

posted on 7/1/07 at 01:32 PM Reply With Quote
awesome

I checked out your site,do you have any info on your plug creation? What type of material did you use, and what methods helped you maintain symmetry? Thanks
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G.Man

posted on 7/1/07 at 01:36 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Micke Fredriksson
quote:
Originally posted by RallyHarry
Wouldn't four wheels mean that it's a car and hence illegal to drive ? (power to weight ratio thingie they have in Sweden)
Can't be SVA'd can it ?

Cheers


HI! Yes, that´s right. I can have 15kw/100kg as a car. But I don´t see it as a problem. I just perhaps leave my rotating scilencer at home that day.. or add alot of wheight..... It will be Road legal!

[Edited on 4/1/07 by Micke Fredriksson]


Or you could just add a lot of lead ballast on SVA day







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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 8/1/07 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tigris
I checked out your site,do you have any info on your plug creation? What type of material did you use, and what methods helped you maintain symmetry? Thanks


Hello! To maintain the symmetry I had to measure, measure, measure. I had the chassis to go out from and to some parts I did templets in thick papper.
I made the Body plug from cellplastic. It will melt if you put thinner on it.. So you have to seal it from melting. You can look here on my web site- Dont forget to click "NEXT" .
http://www.mride.se/photo_album1.html




[Edited on 8/1/07 by Micke Fredriksson]





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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 18/1/07 at 09:16 PM Reply With Quote
Here is some updates!



Scale drawings.


8mm thick aluminum.










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Mr Clive

posted on 19/1/07 at 12:53 PM Reply With Quote
Very nice work.

Im just wondering where you sourced those blue bearing carriers for the diff from?

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cloudy

posted on 19/1/07 at 01:15 PM Reply With Quote
excellent! i'm looking for some turn buckles for tensioning the chain for my own chain diff - where did you get your from?

James

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G.Man

posted on 19/1/07 at 02:01 PM Reply With Quote
Looks superb

one word of warning tho...

I have destroyed 8mm ally plate with a 90bhp Kart Engine (rotax twin)... (may have been 6mm now I think about it)

Keep an eye on it, as the diff will be under a lot of strain...

Looks like it will be a lot of fun when its complete..







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posted on 19/1/07 at 02:13 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
excellent! i'm looking for some turn buckles for tensioning the chain for my own chain diff - where did you get your from?

James

what size you after.





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cloudy

posted on 19/1/07 at 09:43 PM Reply With Quote
quote:

Keep an eye on it, as the diff will be under a lot of strain...



Agree on this point, also there will be some lateral forces, if not just from cornering - so will need some sort of cross bracing on the plates to stop the diff moving side to side I would imagine?

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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 19/1/07 at 10:13 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
quote:

Keep an eye on it, as the diff will be under a lot of strain...



Agree on this point, also there will be some lateral forces, if not just from cornering - so will need some sort of cross bracing on the plates to stop the diff moving side to side I would imagine?


Hi! Thanks for the tip! Yes my plan was exactly like that. I will fabricate a "sort of" X bracing at the back of the diff between the plates.
I send more picts later when it´s done,





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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 19/1/07 at 10:15 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
excellent! i'm looking for some turn buckles for tensioning the chain for my own chain diff - where did you get your from?

James


Hi! I use a stainless steel version that I bought on a boat store. Nice finish but not cheap....





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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 21/1/07 at 07:08 PM Reply With Quote
quote:


Agree on this point, also there will be some lateral forces, if not just from cornering - so will need some sort of cross bracing on the plates to stop the diff moving side to side I would imagine?



Hello! Here is the "Bolt ON Reinforcement KIT" I made this weekend. I think it will work really great!
What do you think?










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