britishtrident
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 03:43 PM |
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Is Alonso now unemployable ?
Would you trust Alonso enough to hire him?
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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nitram38
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 03:45 PM |
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I think that he has shot himself.
Did you see the move he put on Hamilton, trying to push him off?
Guess Hamilton's gloves will be off for the next races.
[Edited on 16/9/2007 by nitram38]
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Jumpy Guy
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 03:56 PM |
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Alonso is still very employable.
Still world champ, and still with a very real chance of winning this season.
Oh, and the move against Hamilton was exactly what he's meant to do- anything legal to win races... just like Schumacher, Senna et al
As Ron said.
I think that Alonsos experience will become more and more important from now on, and that Hamilton is going to struggle.....
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nitram38
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 04:00 PM |
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Although the move is legal, can you see Ferrari drivers doing that?
What about teamwork?
I am sure that Ron Dennis will be having some words or will be getting the P45 ready for the end of the season.
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martyn_16v
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 04:02 PM |
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Now that the team aren't earning any constructors points there's absolutely no reason for Alonso & Hamilton to treat each other as
anything but direct competition, they're now effectively driving for themselves. So no worries about nerfing each other off the track any
more...
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blakep82
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 04:07 PM |
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i hear McDonalds are employing... 
i don't think he'll struggle getting a drive
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russbost
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 04:09 PM |
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Have to say it wasn't a nice move but WAS legit, let's face it Schumi et al have been known to hang people out to dry like that! What
amazed me is that Hamilton got there in the first place & then 2 abreast into eau rouge
Employable, well I think Toyota might find him a bit more use than their pair who are amongst the highest paid drivers on the grid but God knows why??
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ecosse
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 04:10 PM |
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Anyone as quick as Alonso with 2 world championships behind him would be very employable, he's not done his image any favours recently, but I
doubt that todays tussle with hamilton will do any further harm to him, he did nothing illegal and was faster than hamilton all weekend.
Cheers
Alex
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Jumpy Guy
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 04:10 PM |
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eh? teamwork?
we have moaned for years about 'organised winning', in a Ferrari style. We moaned about Schumaker always being number one, ans
'teamwork' preventing the other Ferrari driver actually challenging.
Now we have two drivers who actually do what they are paid to do- race.
And folk moan about lack of 'teamwork'.
Some folk are never happy.
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 04:21 PM |
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Very good question.
After the previous discussions re mc laren I was surprised to hear a differrent side of the story during the race today. Correct me if I'm
wrong
1 Alonso and de la rosa seem to be the culprits.
2 After the pitlane fiasco where alonso held up Hamilton there was a (heated discussion) where Alonso told Dennis he had the ferrari information
3 Dennis himself asked the fia too look into it.
4 The reporter of the information gets the fine and the culprits seemingly go scot free WTF.
So Ron did know and reported it as soon as.
Did Alonso use the Ferrari info to his own advantage????? Possibly
Did he use the info to try and force Rons hand in the no1 driver preference stakes during the big spat over the pit lane fiasco??? possibly
Will the matter end when the fines paid??? doubtfull as Rons the target (even after all we now know).
Is Alonso unemployable ???????????????? WELL WELL I really don't know as you would need to trust him totally and after this weeks reports I
couldn't do that so if it was my race team He'd have to go as soon as.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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stevec
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 04:34 PM |
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Senna and Prost.
Both were very employable but not to be in the same team.
Steve
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 05:09 PM |
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On the subject of who's done what. Did you catch that little snippet of information that was passed by the commentary crew about who else has
got technical information about which race teams car.
Yep, apparently, the Renault team is in receipt of technical information about or referring to .................................... McClaren's
race cars. Now I wonder who passed this information to the Renault team. It is rumoured that a McClaren driver mught be going back to Renault. Now in
view of someone's recent history of handling stolen technical information...........................
It remains to be seen (although I doubt it will happen) if the FIA comes down as heavily on Renault as it did on McClaren.
Oh and just in case. This is my own opinion and reading of the situation and in no way reflects upon this web site or the operator of this web site.
If you feel like sueing me then go ahead cos I've got NO MONEY AT ALL.
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matnrach
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 06:06 PM |
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I really think this whole thing has been blown out of all proportion.
If you read the transcription from the FIA, the transfer of information from Stepney to Coughlan amounts to not much more than you would hear down the
pitlane anyway or overhear in the bar or airport after a race or test.
Mclaren did not actively seek the information, they were given it by a rougue employee.
It seems that the problem was that they were aware of this information. Whether they changed any priorities in the development of the car because of
it is unknown and even if they did the advantage would probably have been insignificant anyway.
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StevieB
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 06:38 PM |
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There should be no problem with what he did.
McLaren aren't getting anymore points, so no need for team orders. Let the two very talented drivers off the leash and at least keep the
sponsors interest, as well as providing some proper driving entertainment for us to watch!
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britishtrident
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 06:53 PM |
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The problem is nothing to do with driving tactics, but if any team can trust him to be loyal to the team.
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pajsh
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 09:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevec
Senna and Prost.
Both were very employable but not to be in the same team.
Steve
Would Senna or Prost try and blackmail their team principle. I know they hated each other and fought like cat and dog but I don't think either
would go as far as Alonso. I'm surprised Alonso has not been fined by FIA for his conduct.
MacLaren must be torn apart behind closed doors and the whole team must despise him for his actions.
Nasty piece of work IMHO but will have plenty of knowledge that will make him worth signing up.
I used to be apathetic but now I just don't care.
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wheelfelloff
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| posted on 16/9/07 at 09:36 PM |
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Of course he is employable, F1 is all about winning and he is currently one of the fastest so will get a drive. However, if he stops winning and they
all do, then I don't expect that he will get too many favours. Can't see him being round as long as DC has.
I also don't believe that Lewis would have seen anything wrong in the move and I bet he would (and will in the future) have done the same. The
only thing that interests me is that Alonso hasn't worked out that if they crash and neither scores no more points he will not win, perhaps
Lewis needs to be more forceful.
Still bored ex F1 fan
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RK
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| posted on 17/9/07 at 01:13 AM |
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FA is paid to keep sponsors happy by winning, not letting a competitor by. Not nice, but it's him against LH (who has to learn to be patient -
he'll get lots of chances). DC has been paid to smile a lot.
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ecosse
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| posted on 17/9/07 at 05:53 PM |
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quote:
DC has been paid to smile a lot.
Eh?
Lost me with that one
Cheers
Alex
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britishtrident
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| posted on 17/9/07 at 06:25 PM |
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Just a thought but McLaren should be entitled to recover some of the fine from Alonso's fat salary
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 17/9/07 at 06:28 PM |
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Taken from http://www.planet-f1.com
Quote ----
De La Rosa Didn't Tell Hamilton Something He Should Have
As for De La Rosa, it is inconceivable that he will remain at McLaren beyond this season. As suspected, his email correspondence with Coughlan and
compatriot Alonso prove that Hamilton was excluded from what the FIA judged to be critical correspondence regarding McLaren's set-up. While
Hamilton must now be grateful for being shunned, it was nevertheless a grave dereliction of duty by the team's test driver.
(One of the few light moments of the weekend occurred when Hamilton was asked whether he had indeed ever corresponded with De la Rosa. "The only
e-mail I've sent to Pedro was about a female," he replied.)
end quote
made me smile
Full article at
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3265_2733719,00.html
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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ecosse
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| posted on 17/9/07 at 06:49 PM |
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It's becoming quite obvious that LH is getting excluded from a lot of important setup info, what is interesting though is that he would appear
to need it!
Cheers
Alex
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