oldtimer
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 04:57 PM |
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IVA
Popped up to Raw today, picked up some parts, had a quick blat in their car - can't quite believe that mine will sound the same - that fabulous
4age roar!
But..... rumour is that the new IVA test will be £500....yes, £500... - yet to be confirmed, but, if true that is a huge price increase - I thought
inflation was 5%?
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tomprescott
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 05:08 PM |
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I really hope that that isn't true! Im a student and building on a tight budget, does anybody know how/if the details are going to change i.e.
is the test going to be harder to pass? I tried finding out on the dvla website but the blurb they had was disconcertingly vague!
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 05:27 PM |
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Current estimates - £580
Cant remember where I read it but it will be around this price!
Paul
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focijohn
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 06:07 PM |
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maybe they will lower the road tax for us if that goes ahead ......we can all dream
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot. Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Too many targets but too few bullets.
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jacko
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 06:35 PM |
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This is a old post
quote:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=96127
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andybod
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 07:27 PM |
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and vosa say they are a not allowed to make a profit (yeah right)
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 08:21 PM |
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Hate to say this too loud - but I always thought that the old fee for what could be 4 hours-worth of specialist work was quite cheap. Try your local
main stealer and enquire about their hourly rate!
Saying that, £500+ is going to be painful...
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RichardK
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 08:28 PM |
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Yep I heard the £580 price too. Just got my sva date through today 2nd Dec 
Bugger, best get it finished!
Rich
Gallery updated 11/01/2011
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oldtimer
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 10:58 PM |
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Yes, very steep price. I built a kit car back in the pre-SVA days when it just needed an MOT test. I think the SVA really improved build quality and
safety, for a price. As someone who will put their next car through an IVA, I don't get that same feeling - IVA is almost the same as the SVA,
with a big cost increase but no real quality increase. True?
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 18/10/08 at 10:08 AM |
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I actually built kits prior to SVA. (I think AlanB did as well?)
SVA did little to clean up the kit industry. All it did was make people put round edges where they were meant to be, and lights in the right
places.
IVA won't be much different, if any at all. The name change is to bring it into line with EC dictates.
Until IVA/SVA actually checks engineering standards, the kit industry will continue to push out the rubbish that you, Joe Public, so readily
accepts.
How do I know? I've been helping sort out three se7en type cars, from three different 'established' manufacturers. One of them, an
ex show car for its manufacturer, is so out of whack that it needs a completely new chassis to put things where they should be. And it's had no
bangs or bumps either. Just shoddy workmanship from day one!
How many of the manufacturers are actually proper engineers. I mean the engineers who can work out stresses and strains, and have a bit of university
paper to prove it? When I was in the game 20 years ago, I was the only one in the whole of the UK kit industry. I doubt it's changed.
Cheers,
Syd.
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oldtimer
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| posted on 20/10/08 at 08:15 AM |
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Were you really in the kit car business 20 years ago? By the quality of your response I presumed you were a petulant 12 year old.
I shall ignore your offensive and thoughtless comments, but, just ask that you name and shame the manufacturers who are guilty of such poor
engineering.
And be ready to defend yourself in court....
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 20/10/08 at 10:05 AM |
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And which manufacturer might you be, Oldtimer? As for naming and shaming, well, I admit to craziness at time, but outright stupidity I try to
avoid.
The engineering standards of the kit industry are fairly poor, on the whole. Those words are not mine but those of a man I respect immensely. He is
also a C.Eng and PH.D Eng (Mech.). Also can work with his hands, so knows what he is talking about.
Most manufacturers start off as enthusiasts, with little or no engineering background. (I'm referring to engineering design, and the ability to
put proper numbers to designs)
Most copy what others have done previously, because they don't possess the knowledge to see where things should be different or improved. Hence,
the three ballsups I've been dealing with.
You've only got to read through the posts on here, to know that my statement is correct. Bad wishbone designs, chassis without sufficient
triangulation, improper welding, parts that won't fit, incorrect suspension geometry..and the list goes on. Who would bolt a rollover bar on
with just three 8mm button head stainless bolts each side, and no rear stays? At least one manufacturer seems to think this is acceptable.
As long as Joe Public readily accepts this stuff, the manufacturers will turn it out.
As much as I dislike the draconian aus type system where a listed engineer oversees each build, with the ensuing added cost, this is the only way for
engineering standards to be maintained. The engineer must 'sign the build off', and take responsibility for its safety and
roadworthiness.
If IVA achieves what the aus system does, then the £500+ will be a cheap alternative. But i doubt it will do so.
Cheers,
Syd.
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oldtimer
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| posted on 20/10/08 at 12:18 PM |
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Honestly!
Not a manufacturer, just someone trying to make sure we all knew about new IVA price and innocently saying I thought the SVA had helped - that is
all. Please allow others an opinion without getting aggressive. My request that you name and shame is based on safety.
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