RazMan
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| posted on 15/9/05 at 10:11 PM |
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As a matter of interest I am using a Duratec V6 in my Aeon middy - very compact it is too. The main challenge is finding an ECU and loom at a
reasonable price.
If you want, I can email you a spec sheet which might be useful 
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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RazMan
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| posted on 15/9/05 at 10:17 PM |
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oops - meant to post a pic 
 
Rescued attachment aeon rear.jpg
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Gav
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| posted on 16/9/05 at 08:19 AM |
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Very nice
Decided to go with a fireblade engine for this build though.
Just out of interest did which ECU did you use, the standard one? as i assume this would take care of the variable valve timing.
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cymtriks
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| posted on 17/9/05 at 07:03 AM |
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V6 and width and other bits...
A 4 valve V6 might actually be wider than a 2 valve V8. So just because a V8 will fit doesn't mean that a V6 will !
Also due to the angle of the V a V8 exhaust is possibly going down and out of the engine bay more steeply than a V6 exhaust and so is more likely to
miss the engine bay sides.
A measurement across the entire engine, including all the ancilliaries and the exhaust headers is what you need. The bare engine can be mis leading!
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RazMan
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| posted on 17/9/05 at 02:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Gav
Just out of interest did which ECU did you use, the standard one? as i assume this would take care of the variable valve timing.
I havent sorted one out yet - the standard Ford jobbie is apparently nearly impossible to use because it 'looks' for lots of security
related stuff on the car. I will probably have to go with an aftermarket system which will cost the earth. 
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Gav
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| posted on 17/9/05 at 07:28 PM |
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when i was looking at it i was looking at mega squirt, the only problem was getting the variable value timing to kick in.
might be worth you checking http://www.probetalk.com for ecu options
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RazMan
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| posted on 17/9/05 at 09:25 PM |
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To be honest I didn't know that it had VVT - no mention of it in the spec. Are we talking about the same engine? The Ford 2.5L V6 24 valve
Duratec VE?
You might be referring to the Jaguar AJ-V6 engine and Mazda's AJ version which both have VVT.
[Edited on 17-9-05 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Gav
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| posted on 17/9/05 at 10:46 PM |
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eer sorry meant the variable intake length thingy VRIS think it was called.
Variable Resonance Induction System.
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RazMan
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| posted on 18/9/05 at 07:23 AM |
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Ah, I'm with you now
Sure enough, you will have a job trying to integrate Ford's VRIS into any engine management system. I have been told that the easiest way is to
hold the secondary inlet butterflies open permanently with a bracket of some sort and treat it as a conventional engine from there - in theory this
would mean a small loss of low-down torque (which shouldn't hurt too much in a light kit car) but I have yet to jump this canyon to see if this
is true  I have lightened the flywheel to help make the engine more revvy so I doubt that I will find this much of a problem.
[Edited on 18-9-05 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Gav
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| posted on 18/9/05 at 09:48 AM |
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Ah ok, well let me know how you get on with it.
interestingly enough you can get the source for the megasquirt system
http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=megasquirt&imageField.x=0&imageField.y=0
I had visions of adding an output when the revs hit the required RPM.
infact i want to play about with he megasquirt stuff so once my car is completed with fireblade engine running carbs im thinking of making my own
throttle bodies and setting up the megasqurit stuff for fun and as a good learning excercise.
any how let me know how you get on
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aweekes1
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| posted on 18/9/05 at 03:38 PM |
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If you make sure you use a V6 from a Mk2 mondeo, there is a box just under the black plastic cover on the front that deals with opening the
secondaries. You could easily knobble this box I think. Basically program a digital output on the ECU to open the secondaries at around 2500-3000 rpm
or at any revs under wide open throttle then you are away...
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aweekes1
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| posted on 18/9/05 at 03:39 PM |
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Forogt to add: Visit the forums at www.fordmondeo.org for infor/advice about any mondeo engine. These chaps were a goldmine when I had engine hassles
with my V6 (In the mondeo)
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RazMan
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| posted on 18/9/05 at 04:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by aweekes1
Forogt to add: Visit the forums at www.fordmondeo.org for infor/advice about any mondeo engine. These chaps were a goldmine when I had engine hassles
with my V6 (In the mondeo)
Agreed - you can really get to the problem quickly with all their experience on tap
My engine is from an ST24 so I guess the little black box is around somewhere - probably in a box in the garage Although I haven't explored
the possibilities regarding the ECU, I gather this engine is particularly difficult due to all the sensors employed in the design...... thanks Henry!
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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lexi
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| posted on 19/9/05 at 09:00 PM |
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Been lookin over the years at all these muscle engines for Lotus seven types. Am I missing something or pray tell me .....How on earth can you put all
that power down on to the road without spending a fortune reworking frame suspension etc. Don`t see how you can use it other than on a short flat dry
stretch of road for a short distance.....Especially witha live axle
Alex
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Liam
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| posted on 20/9/05 at 07:24 PM |
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FOUR WHEEL DRIIIIIVE!!!!
Woo hoo!!
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