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posted on 23/9/10 at 11:14 AM Reply With Quote
5VY plumbing.

Can anyone help!!

AFAICS the coolant goes in at the bottom of the engine next to the oil filter, and comes out above the starter motor.

So connect the bottom (cooler bit?) of the radiator to the input, and the outlet to the top of radiator?

Next bit! The oil cooler has a pipe coming from underneath, (the other one is connected with original R1 hose) Is this the inlet or outlet? Where should that be run to?

Lastly, there is a small bore pipe coming from the metal exit pipe fitting above the starter motor. Why, and what do I do with it!

Thats it I hope, if anyone can help, I'll then try and figure how to connect my old header bottle, and the small bore pipe at top of radiator.
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posted on 23/9/10 at 11:23 AM Reply With Quote
doesnt it go in just under the sprocket, then come out the top of the heads? or am i thinking too old?
is the small pipe coming out the heads and just a couple of mm dia? this goes onto the auto choke.

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posted on 23/9/10 at 11:34 AM Reply With Quote
Yep it seems to go in under the sprocket, but there is a fixed pipe from there which exits next to the oil filter.

Which raises another question, there is another narrow bore pipe from that fixed pipe! What happens with that!

Sorry about all the questions, but I really don't want to muck it up!

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posted on 23/9/10 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
Not sure if you've seen it but this is from workshop manual:



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posted on 23/9/10 at 03:03 PM Reply With Quote
Very useful thanks,
It looks like I'm right about the main in and out.
Also that radiator feeds system from bottom.
It also looks like the lower pipe on the oil cooler is an output so I guess goes to the top of radiator.
It then looks like the lower small bore pipe is joined to top of radiator, and also connected through another assembly and then to other small bore pipe?? (A1, I am still trying to figure out where the auto choke is or if I have one, but you could be right).
Does the pipe in the background top return flow to rad from the thermostat?

Thanks guys.

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posted on 23/9/10 at 03:22 PM Reply With Quote
From memory mine is plumbed...

Thermostat housing to rad' top inlet.
Bottom rad outlet to bottom of engine, pump inlet.
Oil cooler outlet T'd into top hose (bottom hose may also do.
Bleed pipes from thermostat and rad T'd togather and into top of expantion bottle. Bottom of expantion bottle T'd into top hose (this would be better into bottom hose but was easier to go to top).
Small bore pipe from behind sprocket to throttle body and then to back of stat (T piece removed).

It's been plumbed that way for over 2 years and works fine. I'm using a VW globe type expantion bottle. Coped well with 90'c temps for 1 1/2hours in city centre, rush hour traffic in Italy this year. Mine runs cool at times and I think it's because of the oil cooler circulating back via the rad'; Therefore cooling despite the stat being shut. It might be better going into the bottom hose with the oil cooler outlet?





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posted on 23/9/10 at 03:29 PM Reply With Quote
In the top picture the rad bleed comes to a T with the return from the throttle body auto choke ("another assembly" and then down to the small bore return to the bottom. The feed to the throtle body come from below the thermostat.

Radiators should always feed hot from engine in at top, cold return to engine from bottom.

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posted on 23/9/10 at 04:03 PM Reply With Quote
Most Excellent!
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Many many thanks
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posted on 23/9/10 at 04:11 PM Reply With Quote
As an aside, I was not planning on using the auto-choke (I learned something today!). It was disconnected on previous engine, so I was going to leave it disconnected.
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posted on 23/9/10 at 04:26 PM Reply With Quote
I wouldn't leave the auto choke disconnected or the choke will be on all the time, it releases the throttlw once it gets warm.
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posted on 23/9/10 at 04:44 PM Reply With Quote
I think the prev owner has removed the insides, I'll double check though.

Does anyone know, when the engine is HOT, is the piston at the bottom of the choke out or in?

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posted on 23/9/10 at 04:50 PM Reply With Quote
The spring has been taken off mine so the cold idle plungers are always shut (in the engine hot position).


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posted on 23/9/10 at 05:17 PM Reply With Quote
My car's at work so can't say which way it works but can look tommorow if you need. Mines conected and I can't see any reason not to use it. It starts from cold with no throttle and idles just above cold idle but not by much.

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posted on 23/9/10 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
Don't worry mate but thanks.
I have figured out the workings. It looks like it was originally connected but then disabled. Possibly a duff choke. I'll carry on as is, but e-mail prev owner.
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posted on 24/9/10 at 05:38 PM Reply With Quote
Have decided to blank off the small pipes near the main in and main out as I will not be using the cold idle.
If anyone sees a reason not to please let me know.
Thanks for the help.
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