TheGecko
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 09:01 AM |
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"Interesting" middy from PPC Magazine
Practical Performance Car doesn't always appear on the shelves here so I've probably only ever bought it once before. The December'06
issue caught my eye though because the cover said "Mid-engined Turbo Se7en - Built from scratch for £3K". The car itself is
"interesting" and, to me at least, a perfect illustration of why longitudinal mid-engines and clubman body styles do not mix!
 
Middy from PPCMAG Dec06 - 1
 
Middy from PPCMAG Dec06 - 2
Now I feel vindicated for the amount of time I spent drawing and re-drawing the car and building models to confirm that the proportions worked OK.
Still, at the end of the day, he's on the road and I'm not  so I can't throw stones.
Brief details are:
Renault 21 Turbo engine with UN1 gearbox. Renault 25 front suspension & steering. Square tube spaceframe, hand bent/bashed/folded ali panels.
Caterham nosecone, split and widened.
Dominic
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Howlor
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 09:24 AM |
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I actually quite like the wide flat front but then not a lot thereafter.
Steve
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RazMan
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 09:28 AM |
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You have to admire the guy for building it though - it is certainly different. Perhaps if it was painted one colour it would improve a bit....
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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nitram38
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 09:29 AM |
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Looks very similar to the Sylva R1ot
[Edited on 19/1/2007 by nitram38]
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donut
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 09:30 AM |
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To be honest as RWD setups become harder to get (except for BMW) this is probably the way forward. Looks good to me!
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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JonBowden
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 09:48 AM |
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actually, I don't think it's too bad.
I like the use of F1 style (sort of) side pods - makes the car a bit more balanced looking,
Jon
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Howlor
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 09:54 AM |
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I presume it takes a hard top, anyone have any pics of the rear?
I certainly agree with Razman that it would look good painted all one colour. I think the windscreen would look better with a flat top rather than the
curve as well.
Steve
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iank
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 09:59 AM |
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Using a transverse layout would suck around 12" out of the wheelbase and back end, which I think would balance it up a bit.
But as Dominic says he's designed his own car and built it which is more than most of us.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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macnab
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 10:11 AM |
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Well I just have to disagree with the first comments, I think he’s done a great job of that car. It looks well balanced in it’s proportions and also
well built. Though personally I’d like it with larger diameter wheels.
It would be nice if he could produce chassis plans. Maybe a new candidate for the next locost book series?
[Edited on 19/1/07 by macnab]
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JonBowden
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 10:25 AM |
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thought I'd try shortening it using Paintbrush to see what a transverse engine would look like - Don't think it looks better
 
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Jon
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02GF74
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 10:30 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
You have to admire the guy for building it though - it is certainly different. Perhaps if it was painted one colour it would improve a bit....
ideally using invisible paint
(but as least his is n the road, unlike mine )
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iank
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 10:31 AM |
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Thanks for that, must say I think it looks much better but taste is such a personal thing.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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JonBowden
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 10:56 AM |
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I quite like the idea of copying an old F1 style car. for example this paintbrush modded Lotus 25 (I can take it if you hate it)
 
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Jon
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JonBowden
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 10:56 AM |
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another view
 
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Jon
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 11:00 AM |
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I like your old style F1. Very cool.
The pic below is said car all one colour.
 
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 11:09 AM |
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and modded for transverse engine. also lowered the windscreen a bit.
Quite like it, a little like a fiat x1/9?
 
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MikeR
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 11:12 AM |
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i'd love an old f1 style road going car .... but thats just me 
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TheGecko
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 11:37 AM |
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Wow,
That kicked off some discussion
A few points:
- although the styling/proportions doesn't much for me, all credit to the owner for being on the road. According to the article, he did 6,000
miles around Europe in it for his honeymoon (tolerant spouse!).
- I like the "wide mouth frog" nose although the lights make it a little bit "bug eyed".
- I agree that a single colour helps a little and shortening the tail helps a LOT but that's just my opinion. A reminder of what I'm (very
slowly) building:
 
Gecko model with silver sides
Dominic
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iank
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 11:54 AM |
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Just noticed the reg... oh dear it's still on the database as a Renault 16TL
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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goodall
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 11:56 AM |
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maybe it doesn't look good in yellow, is it simple to change the colour? if so post a few in different colours
i think its alright looking but the long bonnet of the 7 is one of its defining features
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Marcus
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 12:12 PM |
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I have to say, Hammerheads shortened yellow one has something. I like it!
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 12:13 PM |
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ok here goes - shortened and colour changes (I like the bad ass black best)
 
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 12:14 PM |
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nother
 
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 12:14 PM |
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red?
 
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 12:15 PM |
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bad ass
ok back to work now.
 
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