bikkel
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 posted on 30/10/07 at 05:16 PM |
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gear lever movement
hi all,
Driving my mk indy zx12R I sometime find a false neutral (when shifting up).
I was wondering what movement /distance is "normal" at the gear knob for shifting up-down the gearbox.
( push=down pull=up )
thanks
koen
netherlands
www.zx12R-indy.tk
www.zx12r-indy.tk
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shortie
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 06:19 PM |
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Hmmm
Happens with me when going from 1st across to 2nd, bit of a pain with the paddleshift, does anyone else have this problem??
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Peteff
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 07:12 PM |
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1st to 2nd is neutral
A false neutral is between gears higher up the box. You might have some wear in your linkage Koen and the movement in one car will be different to
another depending on your lever ratios or cable route if you have cable shift.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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roadrunner
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 07:33 PM |
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I sometimes have this problem, you need to more forcefull with your stick to engage the cogs better.
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Avoneer
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 07:48 PM |
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My paddles are the same.
I get stuck in neutral between 1st and 2nd and have to roll to a slower speed then slam it into 1st or 2nd to get going again.
Seems to happen more the higher up the revs go in 1st so shifting early certainly helps.
Pat...
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shortie
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 08:19 PM |
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Exactly the same Pat, although I have noticed if you don't use the clutch it seems to go in fine!!
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Avoneer
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 10:17 PM |
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Clutchless upshifts - easy on the track when your hammering it!
Must be a blade thing like the budgie in the cam chain when it's idling.
You 919 also?
Pat...
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watsonpj
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| posted on 31/10/07 at 12:03 AM |
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I've also had yhis issue only 1st to 2nd and only when using the clutch
Note to self "don't use the bloody clutch for upshifts"
Pete
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shortie
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| posted on 31/10/07 at 08:29 AM |
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sod it, just cain it everywhere and forget the clutch on upshift!
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 31/10/07 at 08:48 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by shortie
sod it, just cain it everywhere and forget the clutch on upshift!
Good excuse to leave the car in 1st when driving through town anyway
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Avoneer
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| posted on 31/10/07 at 11:54 PM |
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Shortie - how do the paddles compare to the lever?
Did you still hit false neutrals?
Pat...
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paublo999
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| posted on 1/11/07 at 09:18 AM |
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Hi Guys,
I have a Blade 919 powered Westy which had a rod based paddle shift.
I knackered second, third and fourth gears (3rd was the worst for wear) then found out that the physical travel on the paddle shift was not enough,
all three cogs lost the front edge. It all started with failed down shifts and false neutrals. I have modifed the paddle shift gimble to allow for
22mm of travel each direction. It originally had less than 15 which was not enough. I also changed to a cable push pull system which has less travel
loss.
I hope this helps  My gearbox rebuild was an expensive mistake. Since the modification and box rebuild, i havent missed a single gear after two
tracks days and a sprint...
Paul
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locoboy
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| posted on 1/11/07 at 10:29 AM |
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my home made paddle had about 5mm of free play then another 10mm to engage gears.
I occasionally hit neutral between 1st and 2nd and like pat says its easier to get it through neutral at lower revs, i hit the limiter a couple of
times in neutral when caning it from 1st to 2nd.
more embarressing than anyting when you belt away in 1st then the car you just left standing comes past you as your fishing about the box for 2nd lol
ATB
Locoboy
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Hellfire
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| posted on 1/11/07 at 12:26 PM |
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I used to hit the odd false neutral every now and again but fitting a cable operated paddleshift seems to have cured it.
Phil
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