stevegough
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 posted on 10/5/09 at 09:24 PM |
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Trial fit XE shows up chassis mods needed - now sorted!
Had a good day today - used my new-found welding 'skills' to fit 3 missing handbrake brackets.
THEN had a go at trial - fitting the engine - lots of clearance issues here - should have gone BEC !
I had an idea my (older) Luego velocity chassis was going to cause some problems after seeing Steve Lovelock's and others at Stoneleigh the other
day.
There is a large diagonal chassis tube in the way of the inlet manifold - the velocity XT chassis has 4 small diagonals instead.
There is also going to be an issue with the daft loop put in the brake pipe exactly where the oil pump goes.
Have a look at this photo and also the ones in the 'engine trial fit' file in my photo album, any suggestions, chappies?
[Edited on 17/5/09 by stevegough]
 
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Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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Andybarbet
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| posted on 10/5/09 at 09:31 PM |
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I remember reading in a kit car mag a few years ago about a redtop in a velocity, he had to cut out a couple of chassis rails, if anyone has a copy it
might be worth a read ?? it was a blue bodied car if that helps ?
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 10/5/09 at 09:34 PM |
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fit throttle bodies, should clear it  . Sorry for the misadvice i gave you re: the inlet manifold steve, ive not seen the velocity chassis and didnt
know about that pesky rail.
Craig
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 10/5/09 at 09:43 PM |
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Go with individual throttle bodies or carbs
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blakep82
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| posted on 10/5/09 at 09:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
Go with individual throttle bodies or carbs
i'd definitely agree on that in any case, however, judging by that photo (almost impossible from a photo, i know ) i think the inlets on the
head will sit right where that tube lays, on the same level, and within inches
you'd actually have the exact same problem i've got on my car (completely different chassis though)
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chrsgrain
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 08:22 AM |
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Bike carbs will make that much less of a problem.... might be worth investigating that before going much further. Some R1 carbs and a manifold from
the grassers suppliers (can't remember the name at the moment - NSDev will know if it doesn't come to me) would be about £200 in total.
Chris
Spoing! - the sound of an irony meter breaking...
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stevegough
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 08:44 AM |
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THANKS for replies so far, guys -
Craig - you did not give me any misinformation at all! - my chassis isn't a standard velocity one in any case. Your info you have given me these
last few weeks has been invaluable!
ANYONE got a photo from the RHS of the engine bay, (XE engine fitted) showing the alignment of inlets / TBs with the chassis rail?
MOST of this problem has to do with the huge bulk of the standard inlet manifold casting.
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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chrsgrain
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 10:58 AM |
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I've got a picture with bike carbs fitted - but in a Dax! If that's any use to you (might give you dimensions) let me know.
Chris
Spoing! - the sound of an irony meter breaking...
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stevegough
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 04:22 PM |
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Probably would have been very similar in the DAX, but things have moved on since this morning - I've taken the plunge and removed the offending
tubing, cut it in half and shaped the two resulting pieces to go back almost exactly as the current Velocity.
Got an auto dimming welding mask on order, when it comes I'll set about welding them in.
Thanks for assistance and suggestions, guys, much appreciated.
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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Steve Lovelock
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 05:27 PM |
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I wa going to suggest that you cut the tubes off and reweld them whilst I was reading the post. Is this what you wanted picture wise?
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Steve Lovelock
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 05:29 PM |
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don't know how I got t that wrong, second try:
 
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bill132hotrod
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 10:53 AM |
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XE Engine fit
Hi There Maybe this piccy will help.
PERSEVERANCE is the word of the week. Stick with it the results are SWEET.
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stevegough
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 09:15 PM |
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Thanks for pics guys, but I was looking for something directly from the side showing TBs clearing the rails maybe something like this sketch.....
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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stevegough
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 09:18 PM |
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Thanks, guys but I was really after something directly from the side - maybe a bit like this sketch.....
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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andrew-theasby
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| posted on 14/5/09 at 09:23 PM |
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Is this a bit nearer the angle your looking for, just found it in my pics
 
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stevegough
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| posted on 14/5/09 at 09:40 PM |
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that's clearly showing the clearance - thanks
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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andrew-theasby
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| posted on 14/5/09 at 10:01 PM |
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Not sure if the velocity chassis is taller or not though, i know the bodywork is.
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stevegough
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| posted on 17/5/09 at 12:35 PM |
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Modification to chassis complete - XE will fit with std injection manifold now - Hopefully - I'll find out on thursday when I try the engine
again!
Note to self: must move that daft brake pipe loop first...
Obligatory pics attached....
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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