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pekwah1

posted on 7/8/17 at 12:36 PM Reply With Quote
Unregistered car on public road

So here's a question, if i wanted to take my car (currently no IVA) to an MOT place just down the road for me, i obviously can't drive it, but could i push it on a public road?

It's only about 50m down the road, so if i'm pushing it, i'm technically not driving it?

I'm sure the answer is probably no, although maybe a question to the plod...?

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loggyboy

posted on 7/8/17 at 12:42 PM Reply With Quote
Insure it and drive it on VIN?






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pekwah1

posted on 7/8/17 at 12:46 PM Reply With Quote
But i can't legally drive it other than to and from an IVA test at the moment regardless of whether it's insured or not
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loggyboy

posted on 7/8/17 at 01:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pekwah1
But i can't legally drive it other than to and from an IVA test at the moment regardless of whether it's insured or not


Depends on how you read this. (from IVA guide) here

Please remember that until the vehicle has been licensed and registered by DVLA, it may only be
driven to and from the above test appointment or, if the vehicle fails the examination, to and from a
pre-booked appointment to have relevant work done on the vehicle to allow it to pass the examination.

The presenter is responsible for ensuring that the vehicle has insurance cover and that it complies with
the requirements of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations and Road Vehicles Lighting
Regulations when driven under these circumstances.


Now the only issue is the fact it says 'if it fails' , but the trip to the MoT centre was to work on the car to get it to a level that would pass the examination, I would argue, even in court that would be sufficient reason.






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WallerZero

posted on 7/8/17 at 01:14 PM Reply With Quote
It would fall under the same rules regarding cars without tax, you can't have any wheels touching the floor. Insuring and driving would be the only but you will need to check the insurer is ok with that in case anything happens. Last thing you want is the car you spent hours and hours on being taken off and crushed.

However, if you stuck the wheels on skates then I guess you could push it





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pekwah1

posted on 7/8/17 at 01:16 PM Reply With Quote
Yes i saw the rulings about to and from the IVA, and if it fails then to a garage etc, but technically that doesn't say beforehand....
i'll make some calls....

PS, like the suggestion of the skates, that could be quite hilarious!

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HowardB

posted on 7/8/17 at 02:43 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pekwah1
So here's a question, if i wanted to take my car (currently no IVA) to an MOT place just down the road for me, i obviously can't drive it, but could i push it on a public road?

It's only about 50m down the road, so if i'm pushing it, i'm technically not driving it?

I'm sure the answer is probably no, although maybe a question to the plod...?


Reminds me of this,. clearly it's not a car if it is being pushed LOL

vid








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nick205

posted on 7/8/17 at 04:21 PM Reply With Quote
Can the garage not pick it up for you?

A lot of garages have means of transporting cars.

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mike.williams1

posted on 7/8/17 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
You could technially remove the propshaft .As it can't be propelled under its own power it would no longer be classed as a vehicle
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gremlin1234

posted on 7/8/17 at 05:17 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by nick205
Can the garage not pick it up for you?

A lot of garages have means of transporting cars.

I was going to ask does the garage have trade plates? so they could move it

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bonzoronnie

posted on 7/8/17 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
+1 for trade plates

I have an A frame & would use that to tow to the garage.
I'll duck for cover now

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NigeEss

posted on 7/8/17 at 05:40 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by bonzoronnie

I have an A frame & would use that to tow to the garage.
I'll duck for cover now








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ian locostzx9rc2

posted on 7/8/17 at 06:45 PM Reply With Quote
If it's genuinely 50 m down the road just push it there.
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Sam_68

posted on 7/8/17 at 07:48 PM Reply With Quote
If it's genuinely 50m down the road, what are the odds of the plod catching you driving it?
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pekwah1

posted on 7/8/17 at 08:15 PM Reply With Quote
Well the only problem is that the police station is practically opposite where I live so not very uncommon to have a cop car on that road....
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stevebubs

posted on 7/8/17 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
Go in and ask for help pushing it ??
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ian locostzx9rc2

posted on 7/8/17 at 08:59 PM Reply With Quote
As said I'm sure there give you a push if you asked &#128512;
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mark chandler

posted on 7/8/17 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
I insured my bike on its vin number and rode to the MOT, feels a bit odd without plates but as far as I know legal in this instance.
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ianhurley20

posted on 7/8/17 at 09:53 PM Reply With Quote
Perhaps I am missing the point - why on earth do you want to take it to a local garage? You don't need an MOT before - or after IVA - so ?????





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AdrianH

posted on 7/8/17 at 10:03 PM Reply With Quote
A few guesses as to why.

Testing the brakes on the rollers possibly? But even then the brake rollers will not give brake balance unless they can use a force measurement on the pedal and repeat for both front and back.

Headlight alignment, going through it for play in joints, even to get the tracking and wheel alignment done, all are a bit hard in the home workshop.

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pekwah1

posted on 7/8/17 at 10:22 PM Reply With Quote
It was actually noise and emissions....
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Hopley89

posted on 7/8/17 at 10:24 PM Reply With Quote
You will have to let me know how you get on with this, as i'm part way thought my build and would be easier for me
to drive my kit to the iva as i don't own a car trailer and the hassle of hiring one is just a head ake, so i'd like to
drive mine to iva but i'll speak to insurance company and see what they say too

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pekwah1

posted on 7/8/17 at 11:14 PM Reply With Quote
Driving to the Iva is fine, I've actually done that once before.
For the insurance company, just tell them you're going for Iva and insure it on the chassis number

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ianhurley20

posted on 8/8/17 at 07:42 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pekwah1
It was actually noise and emissions....


In the MOT they do not have a db meter sound test so it would only be opinion. Emissions - ok they do that but maybe a mobile tester would be a cheaper option who has suitable equipment?





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coyoteboy

posted on 8/8/17 at 11:50 AM Reply With Quote
Stick it on wheel dollies and push it there. Anything else is illegal, technically. Removing parts from a car doesn't make it not a car.





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