Major Stare
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 posted on 11/2/09 at 07:39 PM |
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Looks like its an R1 then
After reviewing budget and speaking to Yorkshire Engines, i got a call today from Malc.
Looks like a 2003 R1 will becoming my way for the Westfield (goodbye X-flow).
Whats the spec... bhp, torque, max rpm, peak power, etc?
Do i fit the exisiting airbox or pipercross sausage filter?
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omega0684
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| posted on 11/2/09 at 07:48 PM |
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pipercross sausage filter and back plate will set you back about £100, airbox of the bay £15,
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Hellfire
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| posted on 11/2/09 at 07:59 PM |
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Nice choice  . The 2003 R1 is a particularly good engine.
150bhp, 77.4ft/lb
Phil
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Major Stare
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| posted on 11/2/09 at 08:15 PM |
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150bhp.... thats not much !
So long as it beats my mates 954Blade.
Dont want to cut the bonnet to fit the airbox but i know people with Blades who gained 12bhp by removing the sausage filter for an airbox.
Jon "FISH"
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Mole
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| posted on 11/2/09 at 08:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Major Stare
150bhp.... thats not much !
On a <500 kg car?
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scootz
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| posted on 11/2/09 at 10:14 PM |
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Remember that you're losing a lot of weight by ditching the X-Flow for an R1... then consider that you're losing even more weight by
ditching the gearbox.
Factor in the way the engine puts down its power, and... 150bhp will do very nicely!
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lsdweb
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| posted on 11/2/09 at 10:33 PM |
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Slightly later R1 in 430kg of (ex Pinto engined) single seater - cr*p lines but give you an idea - http://www.kewego.co.uk/video/iLyROoafYqXZ.html
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Wyn
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 11/2/09 at 10:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Major Stare
150bhp.... thats not much !
Trust us - it is plenty of power!! I've been out a few times in a 2001 R1 powered Locost recently as a passenger and the performance is
phenomenal (and my last car was 173bhp Zetec powered). Thats carrying 80kg of me to weigh the car down too!!
[Edited on 11/2/09 by Paul TigerB6]
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 12/2/09 at 07:04 AM |
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Nooooooooo Not another BEC  
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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idl1975
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| posted on 12/2/09 at 09:18 AM |
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You just saved 200kg off the weight of the car! How much power do you need? 
The R1 puts out more bhp than the 954 in its original installation. In your car it will depend on comparative weights, final drive gearing and how
you set up the fuelling.
quote:
Originally posted by Major Stare
150bhp.... thats not much !
So long as it beats my mates 954Blade.
Dont want to cut the bonnet to fit the airbox but i know people with Blades who gained 12bhp by removing the sausage filter for an airbox.
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progers
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| posted on 12/2/09 at 10:16 AM |
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Don't be put off by "stock" figures. This generation R1 responds particularly well to having a good exhaust (get rid of the crappy
exup valve), K&N filter and a remap.
With a well designed manifold you will easily see 160Hp+ form the engine and similar increase in torque. It also has a much better midrange than the
later R1 models so even though the later models are more powerful on paper, there is little between them on the road.
Stop worrying and enjoy.
- Paul
P.S. It is easy to turn the airbox 180 degrees and reduce the height of the installation. You might need a small hole in the bonnet but it will be
acceptable.
[Edited on 12/2/09 by progers]
[Edited on 12/2/09 by progers]
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Hellfire
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| posted on 12/2/09 at 12:36 PM |
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TBH, I'm surprised you bought the engine without checking it's power output first but don't worry, you certainly won't be
disappointed by it's meagre 150bhp.
Phil
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afj
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| posted on 12/2/09 at 01:00 PM |
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As above just turn the airbox 180 and move the breathers with it
eerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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dazdcfc
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| posted on 12/2/09 at 07:57 PM |
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fish you dont stand a chance mate against the carbon beast. 400kg with more weight to come off.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 12/2/09 at 08:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dazdcfc
fish you dont stand a chance mate against the carbon beast. 400kg with more weight to come off.
Sounds like the Slimfast challenge is on!!
Phil
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dazdcfc
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| posted on 12/2/09 at 08:40 PM |
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yeah airbox just turn round like said above thats what i did with mine.
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 12/2/09 at 08:52 PM |
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Sorry Fish, I'm afraid I'm with him on this one - (low) Weight is King with BEC's...
quote:
Originally posted by dazdcfc
fish you dont stand a chance mate against the carbon beast. 400kg with more weight to come off.
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Major Stare
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| posted on 13/2/09 at 07:31 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve Hignett
Sorry Fish, I'm afraid I'm with him on this one - (low) Weight is King with BEC's...
quote:
Originally posted by dazdcfc
fish you dont stand a chance mate against the carbon beast. 400kg with more weight to come off.
Daz has a full carbon bodied Westfield, so his weight advantage is massive. However he eats chips and kebabs and drives like a tart, so i should be ok
Jon "FISH"
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 13/2/09 at 08:24 AM |
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That be fightin' talk where I comes from...
I like it!
quote:
Originally posted by Major Stare
Daz has a full carbon bodied Westfield, so his weight advantage is massive. However he eats chips and kebabs and drives like a tart, so i should be ok
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dazdcfc
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| posted on 13/2/09 at 10:02 PM |
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ive lost a load of weight thanks to you giving me aids.lol. as for driving like a tart bring it on fish boy. ill all ways be one up as you know the
cars a lot lighter carbon body magnesium wheels light weight seats live axle aero space bolts fastners- and alloy 4 pots to go on alloy hubs machined
discs lightend drums+ more carbon and titanium to come. so ner na ner na ner ner.
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