David Jenkins
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| posted on 11/4/03 at 11:52 AM |
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Radiator fan ties
As I've just decided to change my radiator I've discovered that I need a few of those push-through ties used to hold the fan against the
radiator.
Anyone know where I can get a handful?
David
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Peteff
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| posted on 11/4/03 at 01:09 PM |
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Tie wraps
Any electrical or diy hardware should have a selection of different size tie wraps. Or the tool stall if you have a car boot or market nearby.
yours, Pete.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 11/4/03 at 01:28 PM |
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I was thinking more of the kind you get with the fans - it's a long "wire" made of plastic with a button on one end. You push the
"wire" through and push another button over the end.
Sorta like this... <bad ASCII art alert>
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The "wire" is very thin and goes easily through the rad's matrix and through the little holes in the fan mounting.
I've use the two I got with the fan and, once they're on, they don't come off intact!
cheers,
David
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 11/4/03 at 01:29 PM |
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I can get hold of a few ties you can have as a freebie......
for example, I have 8mm wide by 380mm long - look like the tings the US army handcuff people with. Colour is black.
Also have some about 200mm long and 4mm wide.
Let me know if you want any. Liquid hospitality at any time in the uture could be a repayment 
atb
Steve
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 11/4/03 at 01:31 PM |
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Steve,
Thanks for the offer, but I have hundreds of the conventional cable ties, in all sorts of sizes.
It's the specific ones I'm after...
David
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zetec
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| posted on 11/4/03 at 04:30 PM |
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Try calling the people who make the fan, suspect they will post some out, might even get them free being such a loyal customer.
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highspeeddirt
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| posted on 11/4/03 at 05:12 PM |
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Car Builder Solutions sell them, £3 plus £1.50 postage. www.nfauto.co.uk
Click on CBS products and they are about half way down the page.
Steve
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jonti
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 posted on 11/4/03 at 05:52 PM |
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Is it ok to use the ordinary cable ties then ? Won't the heat allow 'em to stretch ?
OFROK
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 11/4/03 at 06:55 PM |
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HSD - thanks, I'll try them. Looking through my catalogues (now I'm at home) I see that most sell these ties, but at anything from £4 -
£6.50 + VAT & packing!
Jonti - I don't think the ones I'm talking about will stretch - they're made from a not very flexible, tough plastic.
Cheers,
David
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paulf
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| posted on 11/4/03 at 08:52 PM |
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I wouldnt use plastic cable ties for this use but you can get some nice stainless ones but they are rather expensive at a pound each from my local
factors. RS also sell them in bulk and i am presently thinking of a good use for some at work.
Paul.
quote:
Originally posted by jonti
Is it ok to use the ordinary cable ties then ? Won't the heat allow 'em to stretch ?
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Rorty
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| posted on 12/4/03 at 03:14 AM |
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As stated above, there are special ties for mounting fans directly to radiators, but plain ordinary nylon zip ties do the job too.
The method is to pass a zip tie through a plastic "washer" (just a 19mm dia scrap of plastic with a small hole punched in it), and through
the fan and radiator. Thread another plastic washer over the zip tie, then cut one of the "buckles" off a spare zip tie, and slide it down
over the zip tie being used, snug it down tightly against the plastic washer/radiator, and snip off the excess zip tie stem.
It's a hell of a lot cheaper than the "proper" ties, and mine have lasted for 3 1/2 years so far.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
PLEASE DON'T U2U ME IF YOU WANT A QUICK RESPONSE. TRY EMAILING ME INSTEAD!
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jonti
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| posted on 14/4/03 at 01:15 PM |
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Well cheers chaps I'll give it a go with me vanilla cable ties then. The washer trick is a good 'un too, stops u putting sideways
pressure on the fins.. thanks Rorty
OFROK
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 15/4/03 at 08:32 AM |
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I used a rad from a volvo. These have a steel frame around the vertical sides.
I just welded four metal strips about 100mm long from the steel frame across the rad to the fan cage mounts. Before welding on, I welded some bolts on
the strips for the fan.
This method puts no stress on the rad as its effectively 'surface mounted' the fan.
atb
steve
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scutter
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| posted on 15/4/03 at 09:24 AM |
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Am planning to go the cable tie route.
One question, do you need anything between the fan and the rad?
Dan.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 15/4/03 at 11:34 AM |
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I used some springy rubber foam strip between the rad and the fan housing - stops rubbing and also sives some compliance if you are using a
'clamping' action as a cable tie would cause.
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scutter
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| posted on 15/4/03 at 03:37 PM |
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Thanks, Stephen was starting to fret for no reason .
Dan.
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Rorty
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| posted on 16/4/03 at 01:02 AM |
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scutter:
quote:
One question, do you need anything between the fan and the rad?
I don't place anything between the fan and radiator. As long as the cable ties are fully tightened, their natural elasticity will keep the fan
really tight against the fins, so no movement is possible anyway.
Depending on the shape of the fan shroud, sticking foam strips around it may restrict the size of the opening, thereby reducing its efficiency.
If you do choose to go with a foam strip, use the correct product (neoprene), as some of the "draught excluder" type foam strips will
disintegrate in time, leaving the fan to move around freely.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
PLEASE DON'T U2U ME IF YOU WANT A QUICK RESPONSE. TRY EMAILING ME INSTEAD!
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 16/4/03 at 12:45 PM |
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I used neoprene strip.
If anyone needs some, I can get hold of it.
atb
steve
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