JohnFol
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 03:39 PM |
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brake pipes, slippting and connecting
Ok, nearly got to grips with the flange tool. Now need to connect things up.
I have Escort running gear, so my only limts are the caliper and wheel cylinder connections.
I now need to get pipe from the brake cylinder around the car to where it connects to flexible tube. I therefor need to buy the tubing. Any idea of
stockists (apart from Halfords), or what to ask for?
Anyther Q for you all.
The brakes have a cylinder for front a a cylinder for rear. I will therefor have to split the fluid using some sort of T piece. Again, any idea where
I can get them from? (This time it can be Halfords).
ta
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 03:51 PM |
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Try any local motor factors, and ask for the copper-nickel alloy tubing.
It's a little bit harder to bend and shape, but it doesn't crack with age like pure copper may do.
You may get lucky and get the T-piece in the same place, otherwise it could be a mail-order job.
cheers,
David
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Bob da builder
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 04:10 PM |
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The T peice or 3 way union, try a mini, have them on the rear sub frame, i got mine from local motor factor with no probs. if not there is Demon
tweeks £££!! but they got them! cant remember the name, think merlin? at silverstone do them, i got some elbows for my flexi pipes from them, MK
engeneering have a good supplier for brake stuff, worth a call!
Rob.
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JohnFol
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 04:16 PM |
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David, happy to try mail order. Do you know any Online suppliers?
Bob, daft question, but would 1 off a mini have the same pipe diameter as used on an Escort / Cortina?
I'm trying to avoid the Halfords "What-car-is-it-for-or-I-can't-help" discussion, so if you have a mini in mind . ..
Cheers chaps
Keep the answers coming.
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Bob da builder
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 04:23 PM |
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?????? i guess so as they are both metric, i think? not to sure but i believe that mine are from a mini, they are new not off a scrappy. all i know is
that they fit my system, unfortunally in 100miles from my garage so i cant give you any more info of the product lable, sorry. But if you are still
having no luck im home on the 18th of jan, drop another reply and i will look for you!
For a mini try a j reg at halfords!! to be honist i wouldnt bother with halfords, go to a motor factor, will be cheaper and so much less hastle that
halfords!!!
rob
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Bob da builder
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 04:24 PM |
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P.S. Demon tweeks is online i think! try through a search engine!
Rob
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scutter
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 04:34 PM |
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try www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk they sell all the gubbings you need, there at castle combe race circuit in Wiltshire.
All the best Dan.
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Bob da builder
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 04:44 PM |
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Doh!...
got the name right, merlin... whats the difference between castle combe and silverstone!!!! definatly recommend merlin, next day delivery!!
Rob
[Edited on 10/1/03 by Bob da builder]
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barrie sharp
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 05:22 PM |
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Hi john try the little car shop in Caversham (near waitrose)
thats not too far from you.He makes up pipes and is very helpful and has lots of spares
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paulbeyer
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 11:46 PM |
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John,
I got my brake parts from Merlin at Castle Coombe yesterday. I'm lucky that I can drop in in person on the way to or from work. I needed a 3 way T
piece and a pressure switch for the brake lights. When I explained what I was trying to achieve he soreted me with a pressure switch and a 4 way T
piece. 1 connection in from master cylinder, 1 out to each rear caliper and 1 for the pressure switch. The switch was about £6 and the T piece a
couple of quid, shouldn't be too much more to have it mailed. And one more thing, the only thing the guy needed to know was if the fittings were
metric or imperial. Simple.
[Edited on 10/1/2003 by paulbeyer]
7 out of 10 people suffer with hemorrhoids. Does that mean the other 3 enjoy them?
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 11/1/03 at 11:52 AM |
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Just don't use pure copper pipe cos it corrodes to the unions & when you undo it you end up replacing the pipe!
Enjoy.
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Alan B
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| posted on 11/1/03 at 02:26 PM |
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Hi JohnFol,
Most spelling or typo glitches I can figure out....but what on earth is "slippting"?
Or is it a real term I don't know
I ust can't figure it out!
I'm not taking the wee or trying to be a smartarse....just genuinely curious...
Please enlighten me
Cheers
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JohnFol
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| posted on 11/1/03 at 08:28 PM |
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It's olde English for Splitting, or modern English for "can't type properly"
Is D the US date format? We use DDMMYY ..
Guys, are we sating I can get a splitter that has the pressure switch in it that will activate the brake lights?
Tell me more . . .
PS The MerlimMotorSport site seems to be unobtainable.
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JohnFol
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| posted on 11/1/03 at 08:31 PM |
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It's amazing.
I respond with a humerous retorte to "D colon D colon D colon", and find when viewing the thread it's translated to D
I can see why people extract the urine
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 11/1/03 at 11:36 PM |
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Brake lights opperated by switch in brake line is an old idea. personally if you are fitting a dual circuit brake line system then I would fit a
switch into each line incase you get failure of one of the two circuits.
Enjoy.
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paulbeyer
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| posted on 12/1/03 at 09:34 PM |
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John, that's right the pressure switch is plumbed into the brake line and that activates the brake light each time you press the brake pedal. As I
mentioned before, available from Merlin Motorsports for Approx. £8.00
JollyGreen, I hear what your saying about plumbing in 2 switches on a dual line braking system, but if half of my braking system suddenly gave up the
ghost I'd be more interested in grinding to a halt safely rather than if my brake lights were shining brightly. 
7 out of 10 people suffer with hemorrhoids. Does that mean the other 3 enjoy them?
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 13/1/03 at 10:30 AM |
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Sorry I think you missed the plot, if you get brake failure with a single switch then sods law says that it will be on the cicuit with the switch.
With a dual line systrem you will still stop, albeit slower but the pratt behind wont realise that you are braking till it too late and he is far to
close. Ok from an insurance point of view it will be his fault, but, 1 it could be avoided with a bit of fore-thought & 2 he could argue out of it
because your brake lights were not working. Then were are you but in hospital with a severe whiplash injury & no compensation. I've been of work now
since 17th November with a neck problem & the only thing that anyone can trace it to is a 5mph rear ending that I received while waiting to pull away
from Chowns Mill round-about. great I thought insuance. The white escort Estate B491ERD was reported to the police, BUT it is not or does not come
up on PNC as areal registration. So I cant chase them, (they drove of by the way) and I cant claim on my insurance (3pf&t) and who would they chase
anyway.
A single brake switch is the minimum requirement & if it is worked derectly of the pedal then that is ALL that is required. But if it is a pressure
opperated switch on the brake line then I would be interested I personally would think seriuosly about 2.
Enjoy.
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JohnFol
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| posted on 3/2/03 at 11:46 AM |
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Just to let you all know . .
Got the bits from Merlin Motor sports over at Castle Coombe. Could spend a fortune in the shop!
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kingr
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| posted on 3/2/03 at 01:07 PM |
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Just for future reference, the splitters are also available from Rally design and Burtons.
Kingr
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JohnFol
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| posted on 3/2/03 at 01:51 PM |
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I am familliar with RalDes, but gound their site particularly bad for clarity of some of the scanned pages.
Not heard of Burtons. Do you have a link?
Thanks for the suggestions.
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kingr
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| posted on 3/2/03 at 02:11 PM |
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Burtons
There's a raldes catalogue at the back of this months CCC, which is a lot easier to browse, can't stand the website personally. And Burtons just
brought out a new catalogue with lots of useful info, which I can recommend.
Kingr
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