James
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 12:07 PM |
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Beautiful 2012 Ferrari
Well done on such a stunner there boys! 
 
Beautiful Ferrari
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James
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 12:09 PM |
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On a more sensible note, I'm looking forward to seeing the Red Bull. So far Mclaren are the only team without the ugly 'Platypus'
nose and I wonder if there's some inherent aero advantage in the ugly version and Mclaren are missing out. Can all the other teams (those that
have released their cars so far!) have got it wrong? Doubt it!
Cheers,
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
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blakep82
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 12:10 PM |
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gives me the boak. not the heavy boak, not the dry boak, the heavin' boak!
yeah, i don't understand it, gives a thinner nose yeah, then widens up for drivers feet, ok, but why so sharply? surely that gives some amount
of air resistance? very strange
[Edited on 3/2/12 by blakep82]
just seen this
http://www.enterf1.com/f1/Why-do-the-2012-F1-cars-feature-stepped-noses.asp
rule changes five a maximum height for the nose, but the rules lowered the height limit, so this way they still keep the high nose for channeling air
underneath, but are still within the upper height limit! interesting! 
[Edited on 3/2/12 by blakep82]
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 12:10 PM |
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.......
Looks a bit 'Duttony' to me
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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roadrunner
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 12:29 PM |
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I hope they loose every race. COME ON MCLAREN .
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loggyboy
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 12:29 PM |
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My feelings are that Mclaren have bent the rules to get their nose shaped as it is. and I bet they have a backup platypus incase FIA rule in favour.
They have already admited to expect to get its legailty challenged by other teams:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/31012012/66/mclaren-set-new-car-legality-fight.html
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James
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 12:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
My feelings are that Mclaren have bent the rules to get their nose shaped as it is. and I bet they have a backup platypus incase FIA rule in favour.
They have already admited to expect to get its legailty challenged by other teams:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/31012012/66/mclaren-set-new-car-legality-fight.html
There's nothing in that article to say it's the legality of the nose that's going to be challenged.
Secondly, be careful what you read into that article. There's something fairly mysterious going on, it was first published and then rapidly
pulled by Autosport. No one's ever really heard of the journalist who wrote it and a bunch of other dubious stuff that I'm too tired to
recall. Suggestion Autosport got hacked by the journalist etc. etc.
http://tinyurl.com/8852jke
Cheers,
James
ETA: If you want to read technical details on F1 then Scarbs blog is fantastic:
http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/
He discusses the Mclaren nose. The new rules state it must be below 55cm... the Mclaren nose is about 50cm.
[Edited on 3/2/12 by James]
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
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loggyboy
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 01:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by James
There's nothing in that article to say it's the legality of the nose that's going to be challenged.
Secondly, be careful what you read into that article. There's something fairly mysterious going on, it was first published and then rapidly
pulled by Autosport. No one's ever really heard of the journalist who wrote it and a bunch of other dubious stuff that I'm too tired to
recall. Suggestion Autosport got hacked by the journalist etc. etc.
Cheers,
James
ETA: If you want to read technical details on F1 then Scarbs blog is fantastic:
http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/
He discusses the Mclaren nose. The new rules state it must be below 55cm... the Mclaren nose is about 50cm.
I did notice that it had been pulled from another site, I felt is was more likely that Mclaren had requested it be pulled as it was setting themselves
up for a fall.
Also, the nose must be 55high from tip to bulkead, so allthough you are right the mclaren nose may be lower at the tip, it would appear to extend up
to the 62.5mm reference plane height before the bulkhead is reached.
EDIT - that picture has no reference to dimensions, they could just be made up! theres nothing to say the dimension of 58mm they show is not 62.5
[Edited on 3/2/12 by loggyboy]
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RK
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 01:12 PM |
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It's not very encouraging is it? Fortunately, as we get older, our eyesight is not as good as it was and we won't notice as much.
[Edited on 3/2/12 by RK]
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James
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 01:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
EDIT - that picture has no reference to dimensions, they could just be made up! theres nothing to say the dimension of 58mm they show is not 62.5
[Edited on 3/2/12 by loggyboy]
I believe that F1 wheels have a standard size? That should have been put in the pic as well.
Scarbs is one of the most respected technical blogs on the web, writes about all the cars and manufacturers. I doubt he'd have been invited to
the Mclaren launch at MTC if he wasn't reasonably well regarded.
Cheers,
James
[Edited on 3/2/12 by James]
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
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loggyboy
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 01:39 PM |
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I guess only time will tell...
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GRRR
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 04:29 PM |
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The McLaren is actually a beautiful race car this year (well, relative to the others anyway)
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oldtimer
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 04:47 PM |
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Bit of a fugly ferrari in my book. Boxy and stepped.
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Neville Jones
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 04:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by James
On a more sensible note, I'm looking forward to seeing the Red Bull.So far Mclaren are the only team without the ugly
'Platypus' nose and I wonder if there's some inherent aero advantage in the ugly version and Mclaren are missing out. Can all the
other teams (those that have released their cars so far!) have got it wrong? Doubt it!
Cheers,
James
I'm reliably told, not to expect it to look pretty.
Cheers,
Nev.
[Edited on 3/2/12 by Neville Jones]
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 04:57 PM |
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Ah the winning McLaren and cheating Ferrari saga will soon begin. i like both cars though.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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designer
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 05:04 PM |
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If that is beautiful, my eyes must be worse than I thought!!
Back to Specsavers!!
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Coopz
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| posted on 3/2/12 at 07:46 PM |
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I really dislike this new ruling... One reason I love to watch F1 is just to see these amazing machines! And bar the Mclaren which in my eyes is as
perfect to look at as a F1 car should be.... it looks like were going to have a grid full of of Ugly Platypuses. I do hope the Red Bull is a thing of
beauty also...But perhaps a bit slower as I would like to see a Mclaren lift the title
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 7/2/12 at 03:06 PM |
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The FW34 has also the stepped nose, so is that only the maccys that don't have it so far
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loggyboy
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| posted on 7/2/12 at 03:15 PM |
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redbull and torro have it, allthough the toro is more nearly masked by shoulders on either side (similar to redbulls of previous years)
Redbull = URGH:
Better but still BLEURGH:
Force india also showing shoulders to mask the hump front of nostradame:
HRT is halh way between the hump and slope, better than hump.
But as stated above, the Mclaren is the ONLY pretty cars this year. Lets hope that doesnt translate to less performance.
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 7/2/12 at 03:20 PM |
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From what i've read it's down to the maccys having a car that last year would have met the new 2012 regs so have refined it, where most of
the other teams have had to adapt what they had last year ie the stpped nose
so hopefuly that means the maccys might have a wee head start and hit the ground running
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