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Author: Subject: What to do to pinto before install
Monkey Man

posted on 18/8/05 at 02:04 PM Reply With Quote
What to do to pinto before install

I'm rapidly approaching the time when I need to think about putting the engine in.

What should I do to give it an overhaul before it goes in?

I've bought a clutch kit for it so will do that. Is it worth changing the air filter / cam / carbs etc.

It's done 165000 miles and is smooth at low revs but starts to sound slightly geriatric above 4000 or so. No knocking or clonking just sounds a bit strained.

Cheers

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mookaloid

posted on 18/8/05 at 02:38 PM Reply With Quote
If you don't want to spend money on it then don't take it apart - at that sort of mileage you will just find worn bits that need replacing and the cost will mount up.

If you are not happy with the engine then obviously you need to decide whether to overhaul it or replace it with a known better one.

Overhauling will probably mean a rebore, new pistons, possibly a crank regrind, almost definitely a camshaft and followers, some cylinder head work, an oil pump, gaskets, timing belt + tensioner etc etc.

Obviously change the filters and timing belt anyway. Carbs are up to you depending on what carbs you have, if they are worn, and if you want more power.

HTH

Mark

[Edited on 18/8/05 by mookaloid]

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Locost82

posted on 18/8/05 at 03:25 PM Reply With Quote
If you're thinking of doing anything do it NOW, otherwise it'll take twice as long to do it once the engine has heen fitted.

It should be easy to drop the sump and see what the big end and main shells are like.

It might be worth checking the compression to see what the rings and valves are like too.

As mookaloid says, once you start it's hard to stop, and most of the costs are with the labour for the work rather than the cost of parts.

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nick205

posted on 18/8/05 at 04:30 PM Reply With Quote
At 165,000 I would expect that a into had aleady been rebuilt at least once before. Do you know the history of the engine?

Are there any obvious leaks or signs of smoking?

Nick

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Monkey Man

posted on 18/8/05 at 05:11 PM Reply With Quote
There is one very obvious leak. The seal around the oil filler cap half pokes out the top and has obvious oil marks from there all the way down the side. I can't see any others but they could have been masked by the very obvious one from the oil filler cap.

Don't know the history but there is no smoke. While stripping it I kept finding the occasional new part here and there so it was obviously being maintained. New leads from the distributor spark plugs seem pretty clean, new fuel filter.

I'm a little short on cash so am leaning towards doing the minimum possible sticking it in and saving up for a newer/better engine in the mean time.

Does that sound like a better use of cash? I'm reasonably hopeful given it doesn't smoke.

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Northy

posted on 18/8/05 at 06:07 PM Reply With Quote
Yeah, stick it in, thrash the nads out of it, and replace it when its fooooked!





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big_wasa

posted on 18/8/05 at 07:10 PM Reply With Quote
Yep I agree thrash it ,kill it then worry about it.

I just wanted a small peak at the insides of my zetec and it ended up costing me a mint.....

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Danozeman

posted on 18/8/05 at 08:04 PM Reply With Quote
Im just checking the shells etc in my zetec to see if anythings knacked. If its gonna cost me alot ill get another engine. The heads already off so i may aswell have a look. My plan is to do that stick the head back on and put it in then find another lump and do it up ready to go in later on. Im skint at the min so it works best for me that way.

Depends how much money u have to spend. AS you say your skint so unless its apart id stick it in and see what happens.





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darren(SA)

posted on 19/8/05 at 08:50 AM Reply With Quote
If the heads off, valves out, give the inlet and exhaust a good old polish with a pencil grinder and a flapper disk. the head is cast so theres not much involved in removing too much metal, all you can really do is polish and smooth some of those nasty seems. While you've got the pencil grinder out, try matching the inlet flange with the inlet port, you may have to open the port up a bit so that there are no steps interfering the flow.

cheers

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DarrenW

posted on 19/8/05 at 10:22 AM Reply With Quote
My engine was unknown mileage etc. Believed to be 90K. Head was well worn, now rebuilt and ported as per Des Hammil. Fr32 cam (old one well worn. New guides and seals. Ive left the bottom end alone as i fancy 2.1 / 2.2 in the future with bike carbs and megajolt.

If your engine is a runner it might be best to get it installed and running then think about rebuild in the future when it defo needs one. Only concern might be if it is warn to excess now and possibly emmissions fail. You may find a better pinto to replace it with later to avoid rebuild costs if you are not seeking optimum power at the moment. There will be planty other places to spend the cash for now if you know the lump is reliable.






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