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lsdweb

posted on 4/10/05 at 09:47 PM Reply With Quote
Rear calipers for live axle - help!

Hi All

I'm still trying to get a suitable rear caliper setup on my live axle car. I'm looking at using Peugot 106 / Saxo rear calipers - any thoughts? I can sort out the brackets but I'm on 13" wheels which makes it all a little tight!

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Wyn

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Avoneer

posted on 4/10/05 at 09:56 PM Reply With Quote
Why use discs on the rear?

If you have some decent discs and pads up front, you should be fine even with 'tina calipers, unless you are doing some serious racing.

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britishtrident

posted on 4/10/05 at 10:04 PM Reply With Quote
Peugot calipers might be a bad choice as they have a bad reputation for seized bleed nipples.
I suspect 106 calipers might be undersized anyway -- on a short wheelbase FWD the rear brakes do sweet fa stopping.

As rear brakes on production cars are always mmuch smaller than the fronts the disc and caliper for 13" wheels shouldn't be problem --- try Escort MK3 front discs and either Golf Gti or Rover 216Gt rear calipers.
If you are using the same diameter disc front and rear the area of the rear caliper pistons should be 30 to 33% of those on the front.

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NS Dev

posted on 4/10/05 at 10:13 PM Reply With Quote
will second britishtrident's recommendations above, both quite easy to make fit and have fairly reliable handbrake mech etc.
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Kissy

posted on 5/10/05 at 10:47 AM Reply With Quote
Sierra calipers will go in 13" wheels with little effort. I have a pair of X-19 calipers, cleaned & stripped with new seals (if I can find 'em), free to a good home; cover the postage. Have h/brake and are ally bodied, new bleeds.
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lsdweb

posted on 5/10/05 at 08:24 PM Reply With Quote
Hi All

Thanks for the responses. I’m wanting to fit rear callipers for a couple of reasons – sensitivity of braking - & simplicity of maintenance. I realise that there will be little weight difference (possibly the wrong way).

I have 4 pot front calipers and I do race! I want a balanced rear – I have a balance bar pedal box so can dial this in/out as needed.

I’ve just bought two pairs of callipers – Rover 216 Gti (but they haven’t given me the sliders – I’ll be back there tomorrow morning), and a pair of Peugeot 206GtI rears – as I do less than 200 miles a year, I hope maintenance shouldn’t be a problem!

Wyn

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ethomas

posted on 5/10/05 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
I hope to convert my Cortina rear axel to discs soon (I have 283mm vented grooved and dimpled discs on the front, want discs on the back for balance (and looks )). Let me know how you get on, what are you going to do about mounting brackets and so on?

cheers,

Ed

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gazza285

posted on 5/10/05 at 10:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
I suspect 106 calipers might be undersized anyway.

Try Escort MK3 front discs and either Golf Gti or Rover 216Gt rear calipers.
If you are using the same diameter disc front and rear the area of the rear caliper pistons should be 30 to 33% of those on the front.



The Peugeot calliper have a piston of 30.2mm and the Rover has a piston of 30mm. I've used the Pug/Citroen callipers on my Mk1 Escorts and intend to use then on the Locost I'm building. They have a very simple mounting and are spaced nicely to fit straight over a Fiesta disk using a flat piece of 6MM plate to fabricate the mounts.





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lsdweb

posted on 6/10/05 at 07:08 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks Gazza - that's great news - you don't happen to have any bracket dimensions / drawings / photos do you?

Ed - I think Gazza has answered your question as well!

Regards

Wyn

[Edited on 6/10/05 by lsdweb]

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lsdweb

posted on 19/10/05 at 08:51 PM Reply With Quote
Ed / Gazza

I've almost completed my conversion to Peugeot calipers - I've just got some minor fettling of the brackets - I'll post pictures / drawings when I finish.

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Wyn

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gazza285

posted on 20/10/05 at 05:17 PM Reply With Quote
I haven't forgotten, just a combination of overwork and idleness.





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