badding
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| posted on 10/10/07 at 10:55 AM |
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Lights/switch and SVA
Some questions concerning these:
I want to use separate switches for the side, dip and main is this allowed concerning SVA, or is the side and dip function controlled by one
switch?..
And must the switches illuminate when pressed on.
I´m using the standard zx9r loom.
With the ignition off, what has to function?..I know hazard lights, but what else.
[Edited on 10/10/07 by badding]
[Edited on 10/10/07 by badding]
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locoboy
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| posted on 10/10/07 at 11:28 AM |
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Cant see an issue with them being on different switches as far as SVA goes.
With the ingnition off only the hazards need to work.
Dont forget they will need to work with your both of your anti theft devices in operation too.
ATB
Locoboy
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RazMan
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| posted on 10/10/07 at 11:28 AM |
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With ignition off you just need parking lights and hazards.
Having one switch for the lights is fine as long as you have a warning light for main beam.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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badding
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| posted on 10/10/07 at 12:11 PM |
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Dont forget they will need to work with your both of your anti theft devices in operation too.
What does this mean????
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VinceGledhill
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| posted on 10/10/07 at 12:30 PM |
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If you're building an Indi why not use the sierra switches that are on the column? Works a treat for me and looks quite neat.
Regards
Vince Gledhill
Time Served Auto Electrician
Lucas Leeds 1979-1983
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badding
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 posted on 10/10/07 at 12:32 PM |
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I Know, but it seems I can´t figger out to get it to work withe the zx9r loom
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locoboy
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| posted on 10/10/07 at 02:15 PM |
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My 2 anti theft devices were
Ignition Key - if removed then yes the hazards still worked
Kill switch under the bonet - if this was wired in then main battery +ve and there was no other live feed to the fuse box then the hazards would not
have worked.
As it was all my kill switch did was kill the power to the CDI thus it would not start.
In other words make sure that your kill switch (if using one) does not interfere with the permanent live feed to your hazard relay.
ATB
Locoboy
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caber
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| posted on 10/10/07 at 05:47 PM |
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You have got me worried now! I understood that the secondary security device could be the steering lock if thee ignition switch still functioned as
intended. I have a cut off switch that isolates the battery primarily as a safety device however it is located on the passenger side so cannot be
operated from the driver's seat.
I understood that this could also be counted as a security device as it cannot be operated "while the engine is running" as you are not
supposed to leave the driver's seat and leave the engine running by law! I was not aware that the hazzard lights have to be operable with the
car parked and all security devices enabled, could you let me know where this is in the manual as I have missed it!
Thanks
Caber
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martyn_16v
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| posted on 10/10/07 at 07:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
With ignition off you just need parking lights and hazards.
This the the second time it's come up in the last couple of weeks and I didn't get an answer last time, but I can't find any
reference to 'parking lights' (or any other form of marker light that needs to operate with the ignition off) in the SVA manual. I
don't think they're required...
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iank
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| posted on 10/10/07 at 07:38 PM |
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Hazard operation is required with ignition on or off, it doesn't mention having to work with any other security device active.
(9.1.7a 91st page of the 2003 pdf manual - not close to my paper copy of the 'real' one)
Can't find anything about other systems that are specified as having to work with the ignition on, though that might be an MOT
requirement?
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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RazMan
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| posted on 10/10/07 at 08:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by martyn_16vThis the the second time it's come up in the last couple of weeks and I didn't get an answer last
time, but I can't find any reference to 'parking lights' (or any other form of marker light that needs to operate with the ignition
off) in the SVA manual. I don't think they're required...
I think it must be just an MOT thing but surely a good idea to install from day one - remember you don't need a horn for SVA either but why make
work for yourself later 
[Edited on 10-10-07 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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iank
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| posted on 11/10/07 at 05:53 AM |
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Found it in the MOT manual.
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_110.htm
"On vehicles fitted with dim-dip headlamp systems, the front position lamps must be checked for operation with the ignition switched off. This
may involve the operation of a separate switch."
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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badding
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| posted on 11/10/07 at 11:59 AM |
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So just to make things clear...
1) For SVA only hazard.
2) For MOT hazard and sidelights.
Thanks guys, had to know before wiring the dash...
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martyn_16v
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| posted on 11/10/07 at 12:07 PM |
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Just to make things slightly less clear 
How many people actually have a dim-dip system with a ballast resistor etc? I'd imagine most kit cars just have sidelights...
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