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tony.g

posted on 2/10/12 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
Re-lining brake shoes

I have been suffering on track with my rear drum brakes not working too well.
In Trackdriver magazine there is an advert for Cambridge Motorsport offering a re-lining service with a choice of material.
Has anyone tried this and where did you get it done?

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designer

posted on 2/10/12 at 09:57 PM Reply With Quote
Re-lining was common practice years ago, so there is no problem with it.
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Chippy

posted on 2/10/12 at 10:10 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by designer
Re-lining was common practice years ago, so there is no problem with it.


Yes, but that was when we used to rivet them on, now days they bond the linings on, progress, Hmmm! possably. Cheers Ray





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hillbillyracer

posted on 2/10/12 at 10:57 PM Reply With Quote
I know commercial linings can get re-lined even when they're bonded so I don't doubt it can be done for ordinary car, just that the economics don't stack up except for specialist jobs like this.
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britishtrident

posted on 3/10/12 at 06:57 AM Reply With Quote
The competition friction material of choice for drum brakes used to be Ferrodo VG95 but it was asbestos based so is unlikely to be still available.

Is the problem fade or just insufficient rear braking ? If you just want a little more rear brakes then you can usually fit bigger bore rear wheel cylinders.





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snapper

posted on 3/10/12 at 07:05 AM Reply With Quote
First thing I would do is check how flat the drum inner face is
They do wear and I doubt you fitted new when you built the car so maybe the drums are ridged and thin
Also check free movement of the shoes
Another thing to look at is a small pressure device that locks a few pounds in the line to stop the shoes drifting off the drums, this feels like rear brake delay





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tony.g

posted on 3/10/12 at 07:10 AM Reply With Quote
It's insufficient rear braking. I can get a bigger rear master cylinder. I struggled to get the wheel cylinders and didn't see any bigger ones advertised (Triumph Dolomite).
Does anyone know anywhere to get bigger ones?
I also want better material on the shoes.
If they end up too good I can adjust the bias or fit a limiting valve.

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adithorp

posted on 3/10/12 at 07:17 AM Reply With Quote
You'd need a smaller master cylinder to increase the braking, not bigger. It's the opposite wite slave/wheel cylinders





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nick205

posted on 3/10/12 at 07:35 AM Reply With Quote
Is a disc conversion possible for your axle setup?

Sounds like you already have a twin master cylinder setup and the option to adjust the bias. Off the shelf rear pads in different materials must be easier/cheaper than specially modified shoes?






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Neville Jones

posted on 3/10/12 at 09:47 AM Reply With Quote
Bonded relines have been happening for 50 years or more. I used to do it when I worked in a garage after school, 45 years ago. No big deal.

If you have a Ford rear axle,(Escort, Cortina, Anglia), then you might try a smaller master cylinder, and fitting Escort van rear slave cylinders(bigger diameter bore).


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nev.

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tony.g

posted on 3/10/12 at 09:06 PM Reply With Quote
It's a Triumph Dolomite rear axle.

I can do a disc conversion but I won't be able to use my 13" wheels which I have 3 sets.

I can't get my head round it being a smaller master cylinder being needed.

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Fred W B

posted on 4/10/12 at 05:57 AM Reply With Quote
Pressue = Load over area

Smaller area = more pressure for same load

Cheers

Fred W B





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