Beardy_John
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 01:22 PM |
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Welding Mask
Hi all,
Getting set up to start welding but lacking a rather imprtant piece of kit. I know there are loads on fleabay but cant be ar*ed waiting for one from
the states. Anyone know of where to get a cheap autodarking one in the UK?? Or anyone got a spare they want to flog???
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Minicooper@work
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 01:37 PM |
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For what it's worth,
I got one from the States, received it 2 days later, about £14~£15 all in
Cheers
David
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Ricks-9r
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 01:46 PM |
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Might get me one of these for the misses ,only £28 posted ,a UK seller as well
 
[Edited on 6/12/07 by Ricks-9r]
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 02:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ricks-9r
Might get me one of these for the misses ,only £28 posted ,a UK seller as well
[Edited on 6/12/07 by Ricks-9r]
That guy must have one pig fugly wife LOL!
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blakep82
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 02:17 PM |
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^ ha ha!
having never used an auto darkening mask before, just wondered how essential people who have used them think they are?
thing is, i don't entirely trust them, how can you be sure it won't fail until it doesn't work, and you burn your eyes.
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BenB
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 02:30 PM |
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I'd say they're pretty essential  Improved my (admittidly still rubbish) welding no end....
I've only had a mask not darken once and that was because the sensor was shielded by a bit of bodywork (doh!!!)... Even then they have a UV
filter so you don't get arc eye (UV keratitis). It's just like if someone sets off a flash-gun in your face (after all, you tend to come
off the trigger if it happens!!).... 10 seconds and its back to normal. From then on I just made sure I didn't mask the sensor....
For MIG welding you can get away with a cheapo auto-darkening one. For TIG (which gives off less light apparantly) you might need a slightly more
expensive one.
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Peteff
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 02:58 PM |
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how can you be sure it won't fail until it doesn't work, and you burn your eyes.
It's a shade 4 at minimum and even clear glass will stop enough UV to prevent a flash, you just get a bright spot for a while. AC tig
doesn't always trigger the sensors even on expensive masks. She wants to cover that cleavage up or she'll get sunburn there for
definite.
[Edited on 6/12/07 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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blakep82
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 03:02 PM |
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pete and ben, that makes sense! might consider getting one myself now
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ironside
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 03:21 PM |
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I bought my solar auto-darkening one from this ebay seller: (UK)
http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZjdmnheld1997
Same as the orange ones at the top of the results in the above link.
It arrived next day, including the free filter and welding gauntlets. It's over a year old now and still works fine. So do the gauntlets!
Now and then (like twice in a year of welding chassis bits) I've been welding behind a chassis rail and the obstruction/shadow has caused the
lens not to auto-darken. It's still dark enough not to burn you. I've never experienced arc eye from it.
I think they're essential and would definitely recommend them.
Simon
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Normsthename
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 04:02 PM |
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If you are TIG welding make sure the mask will work with your TIG welder. Some TIG plants use Inverter technology and they will not trigger cheap
masks.
I had to buy a Speedglas that worked with these TIG plants, and that cost £230......
quote:
having never used an auto darkening mask before, just wondered how essential people who have used them think they are?
Depends what type of welding you want to do, I would say TIG welding is difficult to do without one, but not essential for MIG or ARC welding, but
nice
Also if you are new to welding they make it easier to learn, so you don't have to learn to do 'the Nod'
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thing is, i don't entirely trust them, how can you be sure it won't fail until it doesn't work, and you burn your eyes.
They are no problem, as long as you don't obscure the light sensors.
Andy
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caber
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 04:06 PM |
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I bought a very cheap ebay one and it is not so good for TIG welding at low currents or if the sensors get partially obscured by bits you are working
on, unfortunately common on a chassis.
I have just bought a mid price one from BOC that has a sensitivity adjustment as wll as a darkness adjustment, this is pretty essential for low
current work.
When they do flash off it is not a great disaster as the lens does have a degree of shading. While I have been using mine the worst problem has been
seeing where the weld is going or dropping the tungsten into the pool.
You need to be pretty stupid to get arc eye that is running a few seconds of high current weld without a mask at any event it is not a long term
problem just blind and uncomfortable for a couple of days or so I have been told never having suffered it myself.
Do check exactly what the mask does before you buy one if you intend to do TIG instaed of Arc or MIG then spend the money on a decent mask now!
Caber
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Minicooper@work
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 04:30 PM |
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Arc Eye can happen in a fraction of a second, and it's extremly uncomfortable.
Being stupid is not the only criteria for people suffering with arc eye, also some people are far more sensitive to it than others
Cheers
David
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Peteff
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 04:48 PM |
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When I was arc air gouging I had to stop work when the crane was overhead as the driver got arc eye from it, it was always a good excuse to have a
minute.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Beardy_John
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| posted on 6/12/07 at 07:22 PM |
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Thanks guys for the replys:
I've got a Rehmann TIG DC inverter, is it likely that an autodarking would not work with it?
Minicooper@work - where did you get yours from. £15 sounds very cheap.
ironside - how do you rate your fleabay mask???
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Minicooper@work
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| posted on 7/12/07 at 08:46 AM |
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I got mine from the USA ebay site, the guy was selling loads of them, I will have a look at the sellers id tonight when I get home
Cheers
David
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